MtnRacer

Lol, I just thought this was of interest: On Zilvia.net's poll for "What car did you own before your Nissan?" Mazda is NOT an option... Lol, I mean, who would want to downgrade like that anyway? Just kidding, I love Nissans.

Steve

Ni5mo180SX

Zilvias a cool site. I post there every now and then but it was amazing watching the poser count grow with every article release in **** street and shitty compact car.

go_speed_go

Any chance you'd like to actually describe how what characteristics lend themself to a POS car?

And, no, "the handling sucks" isn't going be any better of a description.

I don't mind a contrary opinion to what I've experienced and read, but you got to be able to offer some more than POS.

CanadianRX7

they have a shitty feel to them and they feel loose on the road.

the rx7 is way tighter and the steering is very nice.

i like 240sx's but they just cant compete with the rx7 year for year and mods for mods plain and simple.

Firelance

Curious, did the 240sx in question have a VLSD? Only certain years and trims had this option and it would have made for a much better handling car. I've never had a chance to drive one but I have also heard it handles very well.

fast13b

I can't beleive that is even a question! (I'm trying hard not to flame here...)

I personally think that 240's are nice cars. I like the Silvia conversions a lot. HOWEVER, I do NOT consider them SPORTS cars. If I wanted a sporty SEDAN, they would definitley be on the list.

If I wanted a car other than an RX7 as my sports car, wait, what am I saying? 7's are the only SPORTS car that are really affordable... OK maybe a turbo Miata.

Stevo970

I agree why with fast 240 won't compete with a 7 you have to beef them up a little more the a 7's mods if you plan on winning with a 240 correct me if im wrong!

BuryTheNeedle

You failed! A 240sx not a sporty car???? Hahaha u can't be serious. A sports sedan? Geez. As far as affordable sports car, ther are a lot of cars that are just as cheap that can be modded. With just a little work a 5.0 stang will smoke a lot of cars out there. I would never get one but thats just an example. I have yet to drive my recently bought GTU, but i only have it cuz i realize its potential and it was real cheap. Before getting it, i was interested in a S14 240sx. After a few years with the rotary rocket i will then get a 240sx and do a DET swap. I think ppl are comparing the RX7's here to a US spec 240sx which isnt fair to the car at all. The JDM 240's are sweet rides and im sure driving one will change your opinions.

Ni5mo180SX

The 240 isnt a sedan.

Stevo970

well if you like the damn 240 so much why don't you quit crying about everyone elses opinion on it and get one man your arguing an arguement based on opinions man!!!and of course your in a rx7 forum so of course theres going to be the few out there that have to be ignorant about there car!! The 240 is a nice car and i seen a hell of alot more 240's in tokyo when i went then i did FC's or FD's BUT i wouldn't trade a new 240 for a 7 any day!!

lbjimmy

My girlfriend and I bought an '89 240sx in 1994. She now has it, and IT IS FAST!!! It is stock (but fully loaded), and is driven everyday, and twice a month we drive from L.A. to San Diego in it. This car had NEVER.. EVER.. given us ANY problems... NONE. It is the best and most reliable car I have ever known. It is smooth, good looking, powerful, and does not have blind annoying blind spots like our '7's. I can't give this 240sx enough praise, but I still prefer my '90 RX7 because it makes me feel needed.... since I work on it so much! MAN!, it better love me!

Ni5mo180SX

Stevo, who are you talking too?

Stevo970

im talking to who bury and why does it matter who im talking to whoever my comment applies to is who im talking to (not trying to be a dick there : P)

BuryTheNeedle

Well i figure your talking to me. So lets see... where do i begin....hmmmm. Well I do like both cars, its just that im trying to understand and share some of my opinions with others. I plan on getting a 240 but the time isnt right. This Rx7 showed up and was cheap and rare so i jumped on it. The 240sx's are a dime a dozen. Its good that ppl have pride in their cars but, they have to realize that there are other cars out there that can compete and sometimes kick their ride's ***. I understand that its different strokes for different folks. But come on share a valid reason, for god's sake of why the car is bad. You can't be like "oh i drive a RX7 so its unbeatable" Nahhh does'nt work for me. There's always a car out there that can whip your ***. BTW you said that you woul'dnt trade a new 240sx for a RX7 anyday?? Yeah i agree with you there.

fast13b

I've never been to Japan and I never plan on living there, so I reserve all my comments to US spec cars. Why argue over something I will never have?

I still think the 240 is a sports sedan, just like my Integra was. Ask the insurance company.

Mustangs are not sports cars. They are muscle cars. Let me be more specific..

MUSCLE CAR - goes VERY fast in a staight line, does not turn or stop worth a ****. *drag racing*

SPORTS CAR - has at least adequate power and excellent handling capabilities. *road racing*

SEDAN - anything that falls short of these two goals because it compromises in order to be more marketable to the masses.

Bring it on.
~Jeremy

fast13b

Dude, with ALL due respect, if you think that is fast it is only because (I'm assuming here) you have never driven something that really is. I'm talking 12 second 1/4 or better. Those are (guessing here) in the 16's...

I bet it is VERY reliable. See my comment about the masses.

~J

BuryTheNeedle

Eh! I dont care anymore. Its too late and my mind is JeLLO. Too bad there isnt a chat board on here. Umm well let's see what i can muster up. Aight Ok i did'nt know we are only restricting the car to a U.S. platform. And as far as liing in Japan. im sure you dont have to live there to own car that matches the Jspecs. So the 240sx is a sedan based on what your insurance company says? Really? And you must have a lot of faith in them huh? Guess what my insurance company told me.....that my MR2 is a sedan. Yeah i'll believe them only cuz its lowers my premium. Moving on..Muscle is a term coined only by it's american roots. The Corvette is also a muscle car. Wanna challenge it on the track? Just cuz a car is american does'nt mean it can't handle. Granted, it can't handle as well as a Jap car. But to say that it cannot do more than a straight line is ridiculous. The 1988 series 5.0 Stangs are one of the more nimble American cars that are track worthy. Im gonna stop on that American stuff cuz we are getting Off Topic. Sometimes you gotta see beyond your nose. And in no way am i dissing the REX!!!!

MtnRacer

Sorry guys, the 240 IS a sports car. It may not be a thoroughbred like our Sevens, but it's still a RWD coupe, with a decent engine in it(let's assume it has a turbo in it, but even not, still decent), and a pretty good chassis. Those of you who claim that it handles like ****, I seriously doubt you have driven in a properly functioning one. I'd drive a 240 any day of the week that I couldn't have my Seven. They are excellently designed cars, Nissan knows their stuff.

Steve

BuryTheNeedle

HUH??? You lost me at "i'm talkin..." So u are talkin to me? I dunno, anyways im outie. Ill pick up where i left off tomorrow. G'night guys.

fast13b

If someone were to have enough $ to sink into it, one could make a 240 or a 7 A) insanely fast and/ or B) handle insane. ( I did...)

My point is, STOCK for STOCK, I honestly can't imagine that ANYONE who took a 240 and a 7 to a track and tested both from a driver's perspective would choose the 240 over the 7. I am not accounting for personal taste here.

~J

fast13b

"The Corvette is also a muscle car. Wanna challenge it on the track? Just cuz a car is american does'nt mean it can't handle. "

Other than the Z06, I would challenge a stock corvette on track anyday. They DON'T handle worth a crap unless you put the biggest front sway bar you can find on them. I know that 5.0's are capable of handling quite good with mods. So are 300ZX's... Stock is another story.

I would not say that I think the 240 handles like ****, it just is average for its class. I am saying that Nissan designed it to be a sporty car that has a nice ride and will sell high volume. It is not their flagship sportscar. That is the 300ZX (of the time), and stock I will say that it handles like **** when compared to the other cars in its class. Drop big $$$ at Stillen and we have another story.

Mazda, on the other hand, designed their flagship sportscar, the RX7, with one primary goal. HANDLING! Same with the Miata. I see guys race (SCCA) miatas that regularly stomp corvettes and everything else in their way. Well, except for this one RX7.

I am well aware that there are a lot of other cars that are much better at the things that are important to me than the 7. Yes I can see past my nose. Unfortunatley, none of them are even remotely affordable for me...

:P

Ni5mo180SX

Ok as far as I know, sedans are four door so how does the 240 qualify? And as far as 12 and under being a "fast" car in your standards, us normal folk (at least I would) be very impressed by the acceleration an R34 or Evo VI can dish out even though they fail to meet your time. And dude , we're talking about stock cars, for a stock car he meant its pretty fast.

Firelance

Curious, does a stock FD post 12 second times?

I'm not sure why this topic burst into flames all of a sudden , okay well when car comparisons do come up, then this inevitable. Maybe this topic should be moved to the general forum.

Ni5mo180SX

Im not flaming but everyones throwing this stuff in here thats really way besides the point, like what you pointed out with the FD.

fast13b

I always respect opinions, even when I argue

I personally think of (stock) corvettes and mustang cobras and the like as "fast". I will even go so far as to broaden "fast" to include all (stock) cars that would be reasonably faster than average as if it were plotted on a bell curve. For sports cars, sports sedans, whatever, I beleive that that would make the "average" car one that was in the 15-17 second 1/4 mi range. What exactly does a 240 run? I know that all FC's are in that range, with a 89-91 TII being on the border at 15 flat and a convertible being on the other end in the 17's.

I'm pretty sure stock Evo's are in the 12-13 sec. range. They are fast. I don't know what a R34 is. Skyline? They are also 12-13 sec cars. Fast.

Sedan does not mean 4-door. If you want to get techical, every car that will ever be street legal in the US is a sedan, not including trucks. A non- sedan would be something like my friend's open wheeled Lotus 340R *I think I just filled the cup...*

Honestly I think I forgot what my point was, but I enjoy learning by constructive criticism so...

~J