Here here! Do a 4th gen and do it right, nothing like the damned RX-8 or FD. Kick some ***, Mazda. you know what we want!

 

Aaron, you just read my mind! Do it like the 350Z. A basic 2 seater with great handling and good power but no extra crap to jack up the price.

 

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+1, on the real, though.

 

BASE MODEL: mid-engined, RWD, 13B-RE, double wish bone, and coilovers
OTHER OPTIONS: AWD, 20B, EDFC, bigger turbo, stiffer chassis

I guess making it mid-engined would sort of defeat the purpose... just an idea.

 

Our cars are technically a front mid-engine.

 

Well wouldn't 2008 be the 30th anniversary of the Rx-7 in the states? Maybe Mazda will make some posters or a keychain. If we're lucky.

 

yeah if 88 is the 10 year Rx-8 anniversary, 2008 will be the 30 year anniversary. May 30th this year was the 40th anniversary of the publically sold rotary car.

 

we all know as most threads do that this one will die out(knowing my luck it will shortly) however i find it quite funny that the people who discouraged this thread were totally ignored and seing as some of the moderators did get involved and seemed to, say the least, enjoy it a bit, i dont think it will be locked.

Aaron you son of a gun, thats brilliant, the only reason I was saying about reintroducing the FC was because I love the body, but a fourth gen would be a great idea, either way i think mazda would make a killing

especially because of all these movies with the FD in it, and Initial D, some people would buy the car just to own a piece of the legendary 7.

 

Will never happen. (allthough its nice to dream)

1. You will never see a rotary in the US again, released in any other form but the Renesis. Reason being, Emissions. No FD after 95, in the US, because they could not get the 13b to meet the strict emissions regs set forth by CARB and the FED so they discontinued it. Therefore, any new vehicle mazda would release would carry the Renesis. (The 13b and all previous rotaries had overlapping exhaust and inake ports. The need for 2 pre cats and a final cat on the FD JUST to meet the CARB and FED regs set forth in 88 for 92 and newer models. Never able to meet tier 2 Bin 4 fed emissions)

Sorry for the bubble burstin.

 

why don't they just release a 30th Anniversary ed of the RX7 next year.

 

oops helps to read all the posts haha. but there is also talk of a 4th gen after they cut the rx-8 project

 

you know if they really wanted to they could find a way, besides i dont think anyone really hated the 8s engine they just hated the car because it is no longer race inspired

correct me if im wrong but i dont think many people would have a problem with a turbo renesis engine if they made a two seater hatchback that was a sports car like the fc and fd

 

I wish the Rx8 would come with a turbo stock, that would basically let it continue the legacy of the 7, even though its not really a race inspired car like ours.

factory turbo renesis ftw!

 

That is incorrect. Emissions had absolutely nothing to do with the FD being discontinued. It was discontinued for sale in the USA for one and only one reason.

Because it didn't sell. It was too expensive.

Emissions regulations didn't change in 1996. The particle count didn't change, the levels didn't change.

The only mandated changes in 1996 were side impact beams in the doors and that the ECU be OBD II compatible. Since all cars sold in California since the 89 model year were already OBD compliant, it would not have been much of a deal to come out with a new OBD II ECU and accompanying harness/connector.

Where do these old wives tales of emissions being the death of the FD come from. It died of natural causes... no one was buying them because they were too expensive.

 

except the people who complain about the cost of gas and go buy giant SUV's and trucks they have no good use for anyway. which is a surprisingly high percentage of Americans.

and I agree, the Renesis isn't bad, the whole car just wasn't designed like the '7 was.

 

??? Since very little changed except mechanicals and some styling items - for the better, I might humbly suggest, I'm not sure where this comes from. Like almost all new cars, the first year of the new model was least reliable and improved from there. Nobody converts their S5's to S4 spec. And people always seem to be looking for S5 interior trim and things like the tails, mirrors, and even the nose cap for their s4s, and of course the big one, S5 motors. S4s outsold S5s - an advantage owing to the excitement a new model brings, and the fact that the rapidly rising Yen in the late 80's was taking these cars from 9/10s of a 944's performance at 2/3 the price, to something more like 9/10's the performance at 4/5 the price.

Don't see anything like a retro, FC-style new 7 happening, however - the most widely popular 7's have been the FB's and FD's - both of which were more distinctively styled and stood out from the crowd better. Not that being mistaken for a 944 is a bad thing... Don't get me wrong, I love my FC, but in the general population I think it probably is less well and less fondly remembered than the cars before and after it. Something like Nissan's resto of early Z's is probably as close as they might come, and if its correct Nissan took a bath on that, even that's unlikely. Unfortunately, a new 7 is just about bound to be based on the RX-8 chassis, share it's engine (possibly with the electric supercharger seen on renesis-based show cars), and be taller and heavier than our cars - although if Mazda's smart, they'll buck that trend, and give it gorgeous styling that isn't so tied to the current family look.

I'm thinking a 3-rotor is pretty unlikely too - a major thing that seems to be keeping RX-8s from selling, besides styling that isn't quite universally acclaimed , is that the renesis puts out power like a middling v6, but sucks gas like a v8 pickup. And that's not exaggerating - I was talking to an RX8 owner recently, and she said she was getting 18mpg (imp, not US), commuting to work from south Calgary to High River - all highway miles. A couple weeks ago, I got 17mpg driving a rental E250 cargo van into a strong headwind on the highway loaded to the gills (the van, not me!), while maintaining an average 135kph (about 80-85 mph). Changing to a three rotor, they might at least get power out of it to keep up with a good v6 like Nissan's VQ, or a decent V8 like the Mustang's, but it'd probably have a whirlpool in the tank and get mileage like a Viper!

 

this statement is untrue in some places, where i live no one knows that the FB even exists, they think the first gen is the FC and the second gen is the FD, you dont no how many times i have to correct peoplesaying that ours is the second and the FD is the third,

in reality the majority of the popuation, and the ricer community only know about the FD, only because of the movies and such....how many ricers you see even dare go up against an FD, and yet us FB and FC's are constantly hounded by these street rats, because they dont no.

welcome to the rotary engine we have never had good gas mileage, however the renesis has had improvements that have helped on the gas consumption and on emisions while keeping the same ponnies as the REW, without even a friggen turbo!!

which is why they should give a 4th gen 7 a turbo renesis, or something like it.

 

Hmmm since I get 20-21mpg (US gal- not any of that imperial crap) with mostly aggressive city diving in my RX-8... I'd say either your friend doesn't know how to drive or there is something wrong with the car.

Even Car and Driver reported better mileage per gal than the EPA ratings on the '8.

and 20 (or even 18 mpg) is better than even the 350z with it's average sized V6 and better than the V8 4.6 Mustang. Whats more the average MPG on the RX-8 club is around 20 mpg (again that would not be the imperial gallon, but rather the standard gallon).

Don't post what you don't know about.

 

"Nobody converts their S5's to S4 spec"

hmm? can you say oil metering pump!!!???
can you say wiring harness???(know a guy that used an 88 models intire body harness in is 91, and this guy owns like 30 7s.
wiring is shitty, not to mention the plastic coolant neck, failer prone MOP, and to top it all off, the gxl looses the LSD and the VERT looses the 3.9!!! WTF>>s5 better then s4, no trust me, i got 5 rx7s 2 88s 91 gxl 89 vert, and a 10 ae on the way. anyways with a little R and D i am sure mazda could produce a 3-400whp 3 rotor, and still get decent emissions and milage, look what they did to the previous NA 13b to the rensis .

 

I personally would love to see a second gen with the fit and finish of a new car like my rx8. Man could you imagine how nice it would be to drive a brand new off the show room floor FC! That would be great! The entire car could be updated from drive train and electrical to interior and body. Now when I mean updated I don't mean a 4th gen rx7 I'm talking things like HIDs instead of sealed beam halogens or MP3 compatible radio. Very slightly redesigned dash and center counsel with cup holders hahaha! Nice up to date instrument cluster and a one touch to open sun roof.

The body lines can stay the same for the most part with minor changes here and there but I'd like to see the car with just a little wider stance. New more modern colors for the paint and interior would be a huge plus as well.

The list would go on and on for me but like I said before I wouldn't want to change the fundamentals of the car and what its about I would just love to see it built with today's design and inspiration. And the ability to drive one home "NEW" would be amazing. Because I will never forget how I felt driving my 8 home from the dealer and thinking how my FC sounded and felt when its first owner drove it home for the first time and I would like to experience that too. BUT its never going to happen.

 

I wouldn't buy it. I want something as smooth and sleek as the FD with the newer renesis and supercharged. 2 door, 2 seats, light, decent power, great handling and rotors everywhere (like the 8).