Okay so I have a 1987 TurboII with a cosmo swap and I goto start the car the other day and it wont start.
I check the battery which is mounted in the rear of the car and it's fine but still nothing.
I whack the starter incase it's stuck and stil nothing.
So I pop the hood and my motor is gone.....it's missing....
What should I do now?????







I am SOOOOOOO just kidding.
Actually I am doing a cosmo swap on my TurboII and plan to run it on a Haltech ECU.
I just got the motor and am reassembling the short block now. That is, I have the short block and am now putting everything on it with new gaskets and seals for the manifolds as well as cleaning up and polishing what I can.
I wanted to know if anyone out there has any tips on problems I might run into with anything as I am doing the install and trying to start it for the first time.
I alread have the custom mounts and a flywheel and good clutch so that much is covered.
I will be putting the TurboII front cover on the motor in the morning.
I plan on keeping the power steering so I already know there is one problem.....the elbow for the throttle body. It is a long elbow similar to the one from the FD. I am not sure what to do with this since it will obviously be obstructed by the power steering pump being in place.
Should I just cut it down and reweld the end of the piping closer to the throttle body so I can start my FMIC piping closer tot he firewall as with a TurboII motor??
Any suggestions and pix would be great.
Thanx

 

I have some pics of swap up over here: http://www.nopistons.com/forums/inde...howtopic=58183. I am not using power steering but you can do what I did and use an FD throttle body with the Greddy elbow. I also remember seeing sometime that a guy was making TB hats for the RE and 20B that faced the driver side that might work for you.

 

Thanx for the info.
Any idea who or where those TB elbows were being sold????
I didn't know you could use an FD TB on these.

 

I got mine from Rotary Extreme, but most retailers that sell aftermarket FD parts should have them. I've seen them on ebay as well. I'm not sure who it was that was making those other TB hats to fit the RE TB, maybe Higgitrix? Go to www.fc3spro.com and shoot an email to Ted, he also has a link there for Higgitrix. And yeah, the FD TB bolts right up to the RE manifold and looks looks like it will flow better, it has larger bores and butterflies.

 

Okay another question is the fuel injectors.
I see that the primaries on the cosmo are Side feed. But they are also long body as oppossed to the short body side feed like the FD.
I am having trouble finding ful injectors for this application.
I bought some injectors the other day for a great price. They are Blitz side feed but I got home and realized they are about 1/4 inch to short.
I'm getting frustrated trying to find the right injectors.....LOL
I already have 8 injectors that I probably cant use. 6 are low impedance and 2 are high impedance. I have bought these over the past year of changing my mind of what to do for the fuel.
Are there other rails that I can use or are there any modifications that I can do to the fuel rails or the mounting to make the short body side feed injectors work????
Or can I use an FD fuel rail??
HELP!!!!

 

uhhhh......search

 

STFU!!!!!
You asian wannabe gangster!!!!
LOL........J/k
I know you're a real gangster in your house......
I tried the search.
I went through pages and pages of things that popped up and nothing helped.
Hey come over and help me with this you NerD!!!

 

Hey I just realized that this link you posted doesn't work!!!!
Help!!!

 

Are you using the stock twins ? If so I had problem with the stock pipe between the twins and the IC. It's too high, the hood won't close. I made a custom one.

When I tried to start my car, I noticed that one of the side feed primaries was not opening. So I replaced them with FD primaries. I will rebuild the 13B-RE primaries and put them back or go with 850cc FD injectors (I think there is minor modification to do to fit them in the rail). I still use the stock RE rail with the FD primaries.

Here is a link to my car, if you are interested, it's in a 86 base model:
http://www.teamfc3s.org/forum/member...tos&car_id=987
I still have some stuff to change, like going single, but right now it's what it looks like. And since I know that the FD TB fits well on the UIM, I think I will use one.

 

Okay so the FD side feed injectors will fit in the cosmo fuel rail??
Even though the FD injectors are Short body and the cosmo injectors are Long body??
Okay.
I did put the short body in the Cosmo rail and the only problem was that the tip of the injector did not come out to the tip of the collar on the rail which looks to me would cause some problems with atomization.
I should be a little more thorough on my description of my setup so you guys can better assist me I suppose.

The car is a 87 T2.
The motor is a JDM Cosmo with a single T04 turbo for now(it's pretty small)
I will be using a front mount obviously.
The fuel system is a walbro pump for now cuz they are so damn cheap to buy.
As for injectors I went crazy buying every deal I found.
So I have 850cc Lo imped. RC injectors, 1600cc Lo. imped. Bosch, GSL-se injectors and some High imped. 850cc side feeds from Blitz that are intended for an FD that I picked up when I realized the cosmo was side feed equipped. So I have all these injectors and not sure which ones to use now....LOL
I intend on keeping the power steering so thats where the need for a TB hat comes in.
If I can find a FD throttle body for an economic price to my budget then I can just buy the Greddy hat or something similar.
FD3S did you do some mods to your fuel rail to put those FD injectors in or did someone install them for you?? I am curious as to what kind of mad the rail might need for FD injectors.
I have to many things I don't need and not enough of what I do need.

 

The link is working fine for me. I'm not sure which aftermarket injectors will fit in the stock rails. I'm using KGParts rails with 750's and 1680's. They are top feed, standard japanese style injectors. You can buy the rails at kgparts.com. If you still can't get the link to work go over to www.nopistons.com, it is in the engine swaps section, I am RE87FC over there.

 

Side feed FD primaries did fit in the cosmo rail. I changed the oring and verified that there was no leak. My main concern (if I remember correctly), they were a bit shorter then cosmo primaries so I'm affraid about the fuel being not as well spayed. So far, no problem but I must put back cosmo primaries or FD 850cc secondaries.

 

i'm doing the same swap and am interested in which injectors to get. wut size injectors are in there now? also, where do i send them to get bored to a different size?

Diddy

 

Primaries are 550cc side feed.
Secondaries are 550cc top feed.

Both high impedance.

 

aiight so they're all 550cc high impedence in the 13b-re motor? where would i ship them to get bored to 850's?

Diddy

 

anyone?

 

Just buy some 850cc injectors man......

 

wouldn't i have to modify the fuel rails?

 

i know this isn't really helping you at all...

but where did you get your 13b-re?

i can't seem to find one

 

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...bre&category0=

 

Damn thats a lot!!!!!
I paid half that and it came with a TurboII tranny.
Good thing my car is a T2 already.
It means a spare tranny for me!!

 

TurboIIGuy & FD3S_wanted,

with your turbo set up, are you runnin an fd or s4 turbo manifold? i'm thinkin a fd manifold will be fine but worried bout clearance issues withing piping or turbo. lookin at runnin t67, t66, gt40 or gt35.

tia!

 

I bought an FC amnifold for a small T4 that I will be using and it doesnt fit. At all. No chance of it fitting with any amount of mods. The turbo flange on the manifold almost hits the frame rail of the car!!!!!
The FD manifolds that push the turbo up towards the intake manifold seem to be the one I need. I'm going to pick one up from a shop later on. I'll let you know how it clears.

 

We documented the entire conversion to our 91 vert, just click on "projects" at our homepage www.banzairacing.net

 

My next motor will be a built RE/REW hybrid street ported as far as you can go.

Anyways on fuel injectors you can get a 720 prim 1680 second combo that works well. You don't have to modify anything on the primary rail but you just have to open the holes up a little of th secondary rail with a drill press. The 1680's almost fit so it just needs to be opened alittle more.

And on your turbo selection I would look for a larger turbo then you had listed below. I have the PT67 now and if I had exhaust ports as large as your I would go with there PT72, 74, or 76 with a small divided backside for quick spool. A .86 divided backside on any of the listed turbos above and you will be stomping serious pavement even on pump gas. And on race gas/20+ lbs of boost any of these turbo setups above that I listed will hit 550-600+ rwhp with supporting mods. No reason to go with any other turbos out their these days with what precision turbo produces.