2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

1991 NA topped out @ 110 mph... Now that dont look right, doesn't it?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 12:16 PM
  #51  
NCross's Avatar
I have a rotary addiction
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,815
Likes: 24
From: Columbia, Tennessee
Originally Posted by My5ABaby
Yeah... that's impossible. 3rd gear's ratio is such that you can only hit around 90 in it, at least in an S4 N/A. I can see MAYBE 100 depending on where you shift.
I think he has an engine swap though. different ratios and all.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 04:10 PM
  #52  
whitelightnin's Avatar
Work in Progress..
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: WV
new. same problem

Hello everyone.I just purchased a 90gtu about 6 weeks ago. it only has a header as far as mods go. My car also tops out at 110mph?? can anyone give some insight as to how i need to check ports 5 0r 6, where they are,etc...My knowledge is limited to honda's or at least smaller 4 cyl.(i know i know)
I just got a haynes today so ill be reding up...
thanks.
Reply
Old Jun 12, 2007 | 09:25 PM
  #53  
NoDOHC's Avatar
Automatic = Power drain
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
sorry about the blurry pictures, it is dark here and hard to focus.

The first picture should be recognizable

The second one (although blurry) is closer to the car

The third one is of the rear actuator with it highlighted

The fourth one is of the front actuator with it highlighted.

Yes, those are springs to help them open at the right spot with a modified exhaust.

I hope that helps you
Attached Thumbnails 1991 NA topped out @ 110 mph... Now that dont look right, doesn't it?-step1.jpg   1991 NA topped out @ 110 mph... Now that dont look right, doesn't it?-step2-blurry-.jpg   1991 NA topped out @ 110 mph... Now that dont look right, doesn't it?-rear-actuator.jpg   1991 NA topped out @ 110 mph... Now that dont look right, doesn't it?-front-actuator.jpg  
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:49 PM
  #54  
whitelightnin's Avatar
Work in Progress..
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: WV
?

so, from what i've read. the 13b i have has 6 ports. thats 6 intake and 2 exhaust.
does the motor operate on only 4 intake ports and then the last two (5 and 6) open up at a certain speedto increase top speed?? how can i check to see if the actuators are messed up?? or is it a good idea to just take it apart and clean the 5th and 6th ports????
additional info is appreciated.
thanks everyone.
Reply
Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:35 PM
  #55  
NoDOHC's Avatar
Automatic = Power drain
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
OK I should have told you more.

The 6-port rotary runs 4 intake ports at low engine speeds(<3500 rpm), this keeps higher intake runner velocity which helps with fuel atomization, swirl and dynamic tuning. At high engine speeds (>3500rpm), these ports open, allowing more cross-sectional area for the engine to breathe through and advancing the intake timing slightly.

On the S4 (series 4, 1986-1988) The auxilliary ports were opened by exhaust back pressure starting at about 3500 rpm and fully open at 4,000 to 4,000 rpm.

(That is why I made my comment about the springs.)

You have an S5 (1989-1991) These ports (looking the same) are open by a solenoid with air from the fresh air pump at about 3500 rpm.

All you have to do to test them is to start the car, open the hood, look down at them and rev the engine while sitting in nuetral. The port actuator pistons should retract into the chambers, rotating the port sleeves and allowing the engine more air.

I apologize for not being more clear in my previous post.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:15 AM
  #56  
Dinnercoat's Avatar
Caramelldansen
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,182
Likes: 0
From: SF Bay Area, California
Originally Posted by NoDOHC
All you have to do to test them is to start the car, open the hood, look down at them and rev the engine while sitting in nuetral. The port actuator pistons should retract into the chambers, rotating the port sleeves and allowing the engine more air.
From what I understand the aux ports don't open up when in neutral, only when in gear.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:14 AM
  #57  
NoDOHC's Avatar
Automatic = Power drain
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
You could be right, I know that they do on my S4, but that is just back pressure, the ECU may not ask them to open unless the car is in gear (which poses a problem for testing them.)

If you don't mind, could you test this really quickly?

Thanks for catching that!
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:17 AM
  #58  
Dinnercoat's Avatar
Caramelldansen
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 1,182
Likes: 0
From: SF Bay Area, California
Originally Posted by NoDOHC
You could be right, I know that they do on my S4, but that is just back pressure, the ECU may not ask them to open unless the car is in gear (which poses a problem for testing them.)

If you don't mind, could you test this really quickly?

Thanks for catching that!
Nah its almost midnight here, no turny on car for me.

Search the forum, that should tell you whether they open in neutral or not.

One way I've heard of testing to see if they open is to put some grease on the actuators, take it for a quick spin and then pop the hood, see if the grease spread or not.
Reply
Old Jun 15, 2007 | 01:58 AM
  #59  
NoDOHC's Avatar
Automatic = Power drain
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 399
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
I should have checked Aaron Cake's site.

http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/6porttest.htm

The grease will work every time.
Reply
Old Jun 16, 2007 | 02:28 PM
  #60  
whitelightnin's Avatar
Work in Progress..
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: WV
sweet

thank you guys. quick replies and good info. kinda reminds me of my days on honda-tech when I was running my hatch. (lol, i know, ill never go back to 4bangers)

Rob
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 08:06 AM
  #61  
jgrts20's Avatar
Who are you?
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,235
Likes: 0
From: CenCal
I topped out at 135 and I have an 86 gxl. Have you changed the total wheel diameter on your car? this would cause the speedo to be off, if the wheel circumferance is off from stock.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 08:36 AM
  #62  
Mazin's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Phx, AZ
Originally Posted by so-mars
my stock 89 auto non-turbo tops out just under 110 on clean 12 lane highway
and at about 3.5K RPM at that speed it feels like a golf cart heh

and since no one seems to have taken a stab at the massive size change in tires

well DUH. you really think you can go 3" difference on tires w/o causing massive changes to the way the car works. lol!!!!

where were you during middle school filmstrips in science class lmao
Come one man, i have 91 NA stock except for the air filter, and i have 17' tires all round and my max speed is 130!
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 01:07 PM
  #63  
dothacker's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: Rowlett, Texas
mods, close the thread. i figured out what's wrong... it's the driver ) =))
Reply
Old Jun 25, 2007 | 10:50 PM
  #64  
Toxindude's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 330
Likes: 0
From: Omaha, Nebraska
Originally Posted by NoDOHC
I should have checked Aaron Cake's site.

http://www.aaroncake.net/RX-7/6porttest.htm

The grease will work every time.
Man thanx for posting that link I have been trying to solve what else could be causing my car to bog out at 3800 . I have done everything else like grounding you name it . I am gonna try to do this I am hoping it helps out . I have tried moving the rear actuator and it seems difficult to move the rod . I havent tired the front since I didnt know where to look for this stuff until now . When it hits 3800 if I hold it there it will kick in till about 4200 then go back to bog just kick off jaring you know what I mean .

P.S I have been having a really hard time starting it the last few days it turns over but it just floods out then I have to un-flood it . Then when I go to start it again I have to hold the pedal down to even get it to start and this is after its only been sitting for a few hours it does this . If it sits over night it starts up fine

Last edited by Toxindude; Jun 25, 2007 at 11:14 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:48 PM
  #65  
Jim450r's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 14
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
My s4 n/a se topped out at 145mph in 4th going down hill when I was still attending Wyo-Tech.. Thats the fastest I ever went..
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Donald Hampton
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
16
Nov 23, 2022 06:38 PM
Jeff20B
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
73
Sep 16, 2018 07:16 PM
1987 T2
Build Threads
11
Apr 1, 2017 11:59 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:56 AM.