2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

17x9 +20? and VDI help

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:21 PM
  #1  
1989fc3s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary junkie
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
17x9 +20? and VDI help

will 17x9 +20 fit under the stock s5 fenders. Any suggestions as to why my VDI is not working?
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 04:44 PM
  #2  
LunchboxCritter's Avatar
Disco Biscuit
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 755
Likes: 1
From: Florida
Not in the front. Possibly in the rear, might depend on suspension components being used (stock, coilovers, etc.).
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 05:11 PM
  #3  
MaczPayne's Avatar
Mac Attack
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,668
Likes: 22
From: California
17x9 +20 will fit if you have coilovers up front.

Depending on the size of tire you run, you will require just a roll for the fender for narrow sizes, and a roll/pull/flare for wider sizes. Camber to taste/performance requirements.
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 09:09 PM
  #4  
1989fc3s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary junkie
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
suspension = kyb agx, eibach prokit, camber plates, and ground control ride height adjusters.

wanna run 255 all around
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2010 | 11:06 PM
  #5  
MaczPayne's Avatar
Mac Attack
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,668
Likes: 22
From: California
If your ground control kit uses constant diameter coils (like an aftermarket coilover) you can do this. If you're running OE style springs, there may be issues since the coil diameter increases. You could try to get away with it by running ingall's camber bolts in the upper bolt hole of the suspension where the shock tube mounts to the knuckle. I can't say it works because I've never run this setup on OE style aftermarket springs.

I'm running 255's in the front and even with coilovers - it's a pretty tight fit.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 12:22 AM
  #6  
OkiRotary's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
From: Okinawa
Im running 9.5 in the back with 255's and a +38 offset puts it flush with the fender and up front im running +43 with 235's with a 1 inch spacer. the fenders are rolled and i have coilovers. Roll the fenders and adjust your suspension and you should be just fine.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 01:12 AM
  #7  
13bpower's Avatar
s4 for life
Tenured Member 15 Years
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,516
Likes: 1
From: Oahu
Originally Posted by MaczPayne
I'm running 255's in the front and even with coilovers - it's a pretty tight fit.
Wow, that is meat in front. What are the rim specs? Any pics of it? I'm running 235 in front and its tight.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 07:28 AM
  #8  
1989fc3s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary junkie
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
its not OE style coils they are like coilovers.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 08:57 AM
  #9  
AGreen's Avatar
Trunk Ornament
Tenured Member: 15 Years
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,054
Likes: 2
From: Goose Creek, SC
Your VDI doesn't work because you ask general questions. That's like calling a doctor and asking him if he has any idea why you feel bad.
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 10:13 AM
  #10  
1989fc3s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary junkie
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
well then where do i look and what do i look for to provide more info on the VDI
Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 02:40 PM
  #11  
MaczPayne's Avatar
Mac Attack
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,668
Likes: 22
From: California
Originally Posted by 13bpower
Wow, that is meat in front. What are the rim specs? Any pics of it? I'm running 235 in front and its tight.
17x9 +20 (+17 and 3mm thinner rotor hat from the big brakes)



As for the VDI, if you download the FSM (available in the FAQ) - there are a battery of tests you can perform to diagnose the problem.

Old car, running the same sized tires:

Reply
Old Sep 22, 2010 | 09:06 PM
  #12  
1989fc3s's Avatar
Thread Starter
Rotary junkie
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
From: Charlotte NC
i want the lip off the old car

soooo yea im retatrded and cant find this FSM
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:19 AM
  #13  
jjcobm's Avatar
Are you experienced?
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Originally Posted by MaczPayne
17x9 +20 (+17 and 3mm thinner rotor hat from the big brakes)



As for the VDI, if you download the FSM (available in the FAQ) - there are a battery of tests you can perform to diagnose the problem.

Old car, running the same sized tires:

Sorry to turn this into another wheel fitment thread Did you pull the fenders on the red car? Very interested in the wheel/tire combo you have, like others have said, that's a lot of rubber up front compared to a lot of "recommended" setups.

How tight is the clearance to the strut? Rubbing during hard cornering? How about camber adjust ability?
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:32 AM
  #14  
MaczPayne's Avatar
Mac Attack
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,668
Likes: 22
From: California
The FSM is located here:

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...18#post5131218


Originally Posted by jjcobm
Sorry to turn this into another wheel fitment thread Did you pull the fenders on the red car? Very interested in the wheel/tire combo you have, like others have said, that's a lot of rubber up front compared to a lot of "recommended" setups.

How tight is the clearance to the strut? Rubbing during hard cornering? How about camber adjust ability?
Yeah, the fenders were pulled - I messed up a little on the driver's side and kind of buckled the fender since it was so thin, but it's okay since I'm going with panspeed overs eventually.

Clearance to the strut is about 8-10 millimeters, and the only times I rub are when I'm running 0 camber (for daily driving) and hard cornering. All other times (road courses, auto-x) I run more camber, so I have zero rubbing issues. Camber adjustability is via the plates on top of my coilovers up front, and mazdatrix indiv. adjusters in the rear.

I was only able to try this setup because of work done previously by Josh18_2k and Blue TII, I went off of their experiences and measurements
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:37 AM
  #15  
jjcobm's Avatar
Are you experienced?
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (18)
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,099
Likes: 2
From: Illinois
Originally Posted by MaczPayne
Clearance to the strut is about 8-10 millimeters, and the only times I rub are when I'm running 0 camber (for daily driving) and hard cornering. All other times (road courses, auto-x) I run more camber, so I have zero rubbing issues. Camber adjustability is via the plates on top of my coilovers up front, and mazdatrix indiv. adjusters in the rear.

I was only able to try this setup because of work done previously by Josh_18k and Blue TII, I went off of their experiences and measurements
Was the fender pull required to get the tires to fit? How do you think a fender roll would work with that setup? Also, is the rubbing happening on the fender or strut (I am assuming fender since you say adjusting camber solves issue). I run 1.5* camber up front daily.

What about the rear, did those just fit like a glove or required some camber or other adjustments?

Thanks for the info. Love the fitment.
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2010 | 12:18 PM
  #16  
MaczPayne's Avatar
Mac Attack
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,668
Likes: 22
From: California
For the +17 offset, I had to pull and flare the fenders so that the tire clears. For just a roll, an offset of around +24 will work. Rubbing issue is only on the fenders.

If you have wobbly wheel bearings, your suspension will eat the wheel up front with a 17x9 +24 , so make sure they're nice and tight.
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:33 AM.