13bt or 20b?
11-15-11, 02:12 AM
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13bt or 20b?
So pretty soon here I'm goin to have 4-5grand. I have a 13bt I'm rebuilding n doin med. Streetport. Should I stick with that n upgrade that motor or go with a 20b? Any input would be great. Thx
11-15-11, 02:40 AM
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I would say it depends on what your goals are for your engine and what you plan on using the car for. If you already started the work on the 13b Id say stick with that. You can have a ton of fun with a properly built 13b.
Then again, Im never going to say to NOT do a 20b, as long as you stay rotary. We need more on the streets round here. lol
Then again, Im never going to say to NOT do a 20b, as long as you stay rotary. We need more on the streets round here. lol
11-15-11, 03:18 AM
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These are two completely different extremes here. 13B-T can be done properly with ~$4,000. 20B, on the other hand, PROPERLY ~$18,000.
All of these prices are determined by how easily you can source parts, quality of parts, availability of parts, labor, the "nitty gritty", etc...
All of these prices are determined by how easily you can source parts, quality of parts, availability of parts, labor, the "nitty gritty", etc...
11-15-11, 03:32 AM
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4-5k will put some sweet ponies on the 13bt or upgrades all round on the car or buy a standard 20b. id rather just keep on with the 13b tbh. or save up and buy a cosmo and have both 
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11-15-11, 11:32 AM
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if you want to drive the car, stay 13B, if you want a project to work on go 3 rotor....
the 13B is all bolt on stuff, the 3 rotor is not
the 13B is all bolt on stuff, the 3 rotor is not
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^^^ agreed, we all tend to dream of 20b's whirling inside our engine bays but fact of the matter is unless you feel like investing an easy $12k and can do EVERYTHING yourself and have some serious downtime approved its not gonna come out well or be feasible. Between cost of the engine alone eating a majority of your budget let alone getting it in the car, cooling and ducting, standalone, and all the little things everyone overlooks like hoses, clamps, injector cleaning, new gaskets, trying to get the turbos functional or setting them up parallel, ect. And tuning its not for the faint of heart or those with budget and time restrictions. But whatever you decide be realistic about your goals and the cars use. Your only gonna get what you put in.
11-15-11, 12:29 PM
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^^^ agreed, we all tend to dream of 20b's whirling inside our engine bays but fact of the matter is unless you feel like investing an easy $12k and can do EVERYTHING yourself and have some serious downtime approved its not gonna come out well or be feasible. Between cost of the engine alone eating a majority of your budget let alone getting it in the car, cooling and ducting, standalone, and all the little things everyone overlooks like hoses, clamps, injector cleaning, new gaskets, trying to get the turbos functional or setting them up parallel, ect. And tuning its not for the faint of heart or those with budget and time restrictions. But whatever you decide be realistic about your goals and the cars use. Your only gonna get what you put in.
so its not really the money that makes the 3 rotor hard, or a long project, its that there is a huge list of things that need to be modified or replaced, and then you need to get all that new stuff to actually work. you're kind of starting from scratch, you have to make an engine wiring harness, a new charging harness, etc etc. there is no exhaust that will bolt up, so that is custom. the big radiator doesn't fit because the engine is longer, so you need to do some cutting, or creative fitting.
the 20B is a fun project, and there is nothing wrong with having a project car thats huge long project, that might take years to finish. whereas the 13B is stock, and you can just put it together using the FSM in a weekend and go drive, it really more boils down to what you want to do with the car.
11-15-11, 06:15 PM
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^^^Don't forget the garage space for the car, space to build the engine, tools to fabricate all the stuff, storage for parts until you're ready for them, other FC's to drive around to keep you interested in the build, etc. If all that is available to you, it's a great cost saver, but can be a deal breaker because you end up having to pay someone else for storage/fab/labor.
