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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Ive installed a custon head unit(cd player) and now my car wont F*^#ng start. the motor turns(cranks) but doesnt start..... ITs not the fuses, its not the spark and its not the fuel line... anyone else had this problem please fill me in... anybody please, if not im gonna roll it out of my drive wy and let a truck hit it.. thanks fellas
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:48 AM
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I'd try double checking the wiring on the head unit because it might be draining the battery.

i could be wrong
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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If it's turning over and not firing, try a deflooding procedure.
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Old May 22, 2006 | 01:58 AM
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look in the cabin fuse box, third fuse from the bottom 2nd from the left. should be a 15 amp fuse. bet its blown. its the engine fuse. check it out
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Old May 22, 2006 | 02:02 AM
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ive checked every fuse and its not the battery either.. im clueless
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Old May 22, 2006 | 02:12 AM
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tried push starting?
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Old May 22, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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trying jumper leads with my mates car and nothing... i guess this websites is human lol
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Old May 22, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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probably flooded

And your title of the thread has been updated, to actually have the problem in the title and to remove the profanity. No cursing in thread titles

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Old May 23, 2006 | 01:28 AM
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flooded meaning what?
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Old May 23, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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lol

edit: lol, sorry, it's late and I'm eating dinner, he probably means engine flooded
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Compton
flooded meaning what?
flooded meaning there is an ***-load of fuel in your motor. We've all had this problem. Thinking back, did you start the car for any reason, maybe just to move it in your driveway or garage, and then shut it off before the motor was hot?
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:58 AM
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yes i did thats excactly what i did moved it into position for the mechanic just for 10 seconds??? how do i fix it???
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Old May 23, 2006 | 02:59 AM
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how do i fix a flooded engine??
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Old May 23, 2006 | 03:04 AM
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You could use the search feature to find the de-flood procedure or read the FAQ for it. You can find it everywhere on this site.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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Engine Isnt Flooded Just Checked.... Can
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Old May 23, 2006 | 03:50 AM
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Engine Isnt Flooded Just Checked.... Can I Jump Start My Car If The Other Persons Battery Isnt In A Car Just On The Floor Is That Possible Or Does I Have To Be In A Working Car??
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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Are you losing power when trying to start? Just use jumper cables to hook up to the other persons car, you don't need to remove his battery. Remember the essentials any engine needs. The right amount of fuel, air, spark, compression. If you have those things then you should be good to go.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:03 AM
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The problem is i havnt got a car to put the other battery in so i need to know if it is possible to do it with out the other battery being in a car??? it sounds flat when i try start it.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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The location of the battery doesn't matter as long as your power wires can connect to its terminals.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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if ive tried all those things you advised and thanks heaps but still no go... im lost now
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Old May 23, 2006 | 04:26 AM
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so your engine isn't flood, your prolly getting enough air, have you checked your spark? make sure your spark plugs are clean?
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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If the motor cranks but is not starting it is either lack of fuel, too much fuel or no spark. It is not a bad battery or weak electrical system, as the car would not crank with a bad battery or would crank extra extra slow.

Since spark fails about once in a blue moon on a FC, the ignition system is probably not it.

Which leads back to no fuel or too much fuel.

Like idsigloo said, what are the condition of the spark plugs??? Wet ??? Dry???

Wet means the car is flooded (regardless of if you think it is or not).

Dry means no fuel, so then you need to start looking to see if the AFM is plugged in and if the fuel pump is working.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Funny i'm having the same issue with my FC...we took the EGR system out and removed the rats nest... bought new lead and trail plug...pretty much tore the top end off the engine... Put in block plates and all. The car jsut cranks and cranks and cranks. Now here's the background... The car was sitting for about 4 years or so. It was cleaned out the fuel filter and pump were replaced and then when we got it in the shop it started a couple times using the Fuel Pump Relay unplug plugin tecnique...Now the car does not want to start whatsoever...It just crank and cranks and cranks.... We have spark and air and 90% sure we have compression. Would anyone suggest pourng a small amount of atf in to the engine? I'm lost guys and galls help me out!!!
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Old May 23, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Theater
Funny i'm having the same issue with my FC...we took the EGR system out and removed the rats nest... bought new lead and trail plug...pretty much tore the top end off the engine... Put in block plates and all. The car jsut cranks and cranks and cranks. Now here's the background... The car was sitting for about 4 years or so. It was cleaned out the fuel filter and pump were replaced and then when we got it in the shop it started a couple times using the Fuel Pump Relay unplug plugin tecnique...Now the car does not want to start whatsoever...It just crank and cranks and cranks.... We have spark and air and 90% sure we have compression. Would anyone suggest pourng a small amount of atf in to the engine? I'm lost guys and galls help me out!!!
Well most people don't get the idea, that if a rotary motor is flooded, that the gas needs to be held all the way down while cranking without pumping the throttle. This activates the MOP at full blast dumping oil into the intake to help build compression.

You could use some oil (I personally don't think ATF belongs in motors) to help build compression, but if the motor has been sitting, a compression check should be manditory.

So, again, the same thing I said to Compton, what is the condition of the spark plugs??? Wet ??? Dry???
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Old May 23, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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Dry as a bone...
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