13b_4_me

Can anyone tell me the difference between the 13bcosmo engine and turboII engine? which one is more buildable? which one has more power? I just know what engine would be better if i wanted to go turbo idnk if there the same or what so yea just post or pm meeh THanks Everyone!

ibekinq

well if you got the money i would go with the 3 rotor cosmo. can make alot of power with the cash on hand. but if your on a budget go with the 13bt or even a 13btt

XxirhxccusiusxsxX

sry to thed jack but wats a 13btt iv never heard of it

13b_4_me

No srry if u miss understood its a 13b cosmo not a 20b cosmo

13b_4_me

Here look rotary shack sells da engines:

http://rotaryshack.com/Engines/UsedEngines.asp

Alex Rodriguez

iTrader: (137)

welcome to the club first off...now to answer your question , i believe you have an N/A

if you have the funds then 13bre will be just fine but you are not even close to turbo yet...so your best bet will be 13bt

now this has been covered a lot ...just try the top search button and look for AARON CAKE N/A TO TURBO THREAD you will have better luck there

remember knock out all your reliability and comfort mods first then worry about power because a turbo rotary aint nothing to just jump to

XxirhxccusiusxsxX

nvm i was thinking a fc engin

oh and i think a 13b tII would be more bildable

13b_4_me

o kool thanks so u guys are sayin too go with the cosmo 13bt instead of the turboII 13b right?

ibekinq

my mistake i was just looking at cosmo. and the 13btt just my way of the fd's twin turbo rew

ibekinq

well looking at the web site yea the twin turbo set up is perfect . more power on 50 more but i would go 13bt cheaper, similer internals but its up to you.

13b_4_me

O ic so turboII then

EJayCe996

OK this is starting to make my head hurt reading all of this.
13BT = FC3S Turbo II engine
13B-REW = FD3S engine or as some like to call the 13BTT which is ok, but for the most part incorrect.
13B-RE = Cosmo 2 rotor engine
20B = Cosmo 3 rotor engine

Here's a link of everything you need to know....... Ted even gives you a rough cost breakdown of what it takes to get it up and running.
http://www.fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/swap.html

13b_4_me

yea thats the one 13b-RE thanks EJayCe996 helped me out alot on dis stuff cause it was getting confusing lolz

RussTII

iTrader: (4)

sounds like a 13bt (TII) should be more than enough for you. You could squeeze a litte more hp out of the RE, but it will cost you. 13bt+streetport=pretty damn fast.

airworks-fc3s

ok so Ted's writeup on the 13b-re swap is nice and covers the main topics:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/SWAP/COSMO/13b-re.html

i'm in the same planning situation at the moment. my concerns are:

- Ted is saying that there is a possibility for the stock TII ECU to run the re! my question is, does the re have the same impendance injectors as the TII? 'cause s4 and s5 injectors are different!

-does an aftermarket downpipe for a rew fit the re's twins (think they are supposed to be the same)??

Maybe someone knows? Maybe Ted himself is reading??

regs

Apathy

+1... this thread is very disturbing... This vehement display of misinformation and garble is sort of sickening...

To anyone that wants to do a JC 13BREW (13BRE) swap.... I say go for it... It isnt too complicated, just be prepared for the basics... Get a FMIC, mount adapters, a nice radiator, a nice e-fan, all new hoses, a standalone EMS (cause I tried using the stock ECU but its too much of a bitch to get the chasis side harness wired so I said F**k it and bought a V3 megasquirt... I havent received it yet so I have no input on the MS as of now, but I helped set one up a V2 MS on an AE86 and it was pretty easy after we found the "base" maps...) You're also gonna need a T2 tranny (and everything else to make it work like a flywheel, clutch, slave cylinder, etc.) and probably a T2 rearend (although you can use the N/A rearend, a N/A=>T2 driveshaft, and an aftermarket LSD inside of the N/A pumpkin even though alot of people say it to be weaker...)

So... the only difference in doing a JC 13BREW swap is the fact that you have to go standalone, you have to buy $100 adapters to attach the engine to the stock mounts, and you have to go FMIC... Everything else, would still apply and be neccessary with a 13BT. The only difference w/ the 13BT is that it is usually sold as a swap whereas a JC 13BREW is usually sold engine only. W/ the 13BT swap, you can use the TMIC that comes w/ it (if it isnt broken) and the ECU & wiring harness (if it is included and not damaged) and they usually come w/ the tranny as full swaps (but remember that most companies only warrenty the engine block and tranny & consider all other accessories as a gift so be ready if you get a damaged turbo, ecu, wiring harness, etc...)

So, if you can plan your steps wisely, budget your money, and stick to a plan, I would say go for the JC 13BREW. Its a really good bang for the buck and you can have a DD 350hp ride on the stock turbos if setup properly. I am on my second swap. I did my first swap on an 88 GXL and used a Haltech to control it. I then sold the car, bought a vert, and now the vert is under the knife... However, I had to slow down on the swap due to me selling my condo (dont ever move anywhere that has a HOA... they are the devil) for almost nothing and finding a new place to live.

Anyway, whichever swap you choose... just do it right...

airworks-fc3s

Nice, thanks! But man, what exactly was a bitch to wire? are there so many different connectors or what? is there no way to run it with stock s5 ECU? and as asked before, is there no problem with impendance of the injectors?

regs

Apathy

When I say the stock computer, I mean the stock computer for the JC 13BREW... I have heard that some people have done the single turbo swap to the JC 13BREW motor and tried to handle it using a stock T2 harness and ECU... Although, I wouldnt suggest it...

airworks-fc3s

ah ok! missunderstood!

i'm just wondering if it would work, using the stock s5 ECU! as far as metering (s5 AFM), OMP, and all this **** is concerned, there should be no problems. i just don't know if the 13b-re injectors are low or high impendance?
but basically this should be working with the stock electronic equipment!

by the way, nice vert!

regs