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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:10 AM
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10th AE vs. TII

well ive heard that the 10th AE rx-7 is faster than normal 88' TII's and just to get it straightend out I want to know if this is true? and also people say that the 10th AE is the heaviest model that ever came out (heavier than a vert) is that true as well??
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:55 AM
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The 10th AE is is purely a cosmetic package, and is mechancical identical to all other S4 TII's. It is marginally heavier than other S4 TII's due to the extra features but it is not as heavy as a 'vert.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:38 AM
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i would say its slightly slower than the regular S4 TII or the same.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fc3sfreek
well ive heard that the 10th AE rx-7 is faster than normal 88' TII's and just to get it straightend out I want to know if this is true?
Stop listening to these idiots...


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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:24 AM
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I actually had a guy from a dealership tell me "whao...you didnt say it was a 10th AE, I need the vin number...". I was asking about a Mazda reman engine. He said that there must "be something" different since thses were faster. He specifically said "J-spec turbo". LOL, I almost cried laughing.

A 10th AE is an 88 TII with some bagdes, little bit of different paint, some leather, and some factory options. No "J-spec turbos", different compression, or lead weights.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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Yeah, my 10th is slower then most TIIs...

NOT!

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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my "heavy, slow" 10ae weighs 2700lb. With a/c, p/s and etc.

stock vs. stock, it weighed 5lb LESS than my '87 TII, so obviously the "marginally" heavier must be the weight of the triangle badges, at like 1.5 ounces each. I can't think of anything else significant that weighs more than an identically optioned TII.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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psh dont say heavy until u drive a vert, but i do love the handling of my car =D
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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From Mazdamark.com:
In 1988 Mazda also celebrated the first 10 years production of the RX-7 with a special, limited edition turbo model. The celebratory tenth anniversary model RX-7 came standard with many of the options found available on the other models. These standard features included air conditioning, power steering, power windows, power door locks, electric side mirrors, electric sliding sunroof, cruise control, premium 120 watt stereo system, security system, black leather seats, as well as including 10th Anniversary specific only special Momo shifter and custom leather shift boot, special emblems, bronze tinted windows, special keys and leather wrapped steering wheel. These added options increased the 10th Anniversary edition to a Portly 3050 lb (as reported by Road & Track).

The 10th AE was exclusively available in a monochromatic crystal white finish. The body trim, tail lamp trim and the standard 16 inch alloy wheels were white. The monochromatic paint scheme set the 10th anniversary apart from any other RX-7. Production was limited to 1500.
Now that was for a 88 10thAE with the optional Ultrasonics and 10thAE options- car cover, front bra, etc.

Yet, mind that Car and Driver Road tested the 88 P Package vert (the heaviest S4 'vert) and it had a "as tested" weight of 3012.

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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:44 AM
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yea i also saw that on icemarks site it said that the 10th AE ran a 15.1 1/4 mile time and the normal TII ran a 15.3 i dunno if it was a typo or is it really true?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fc3sfreek
yea i also saw that on icemarks site it said that the 10th AE ran a 15.1 1/4 mile time and the normal TII ran a 15.3 i dunno if it was a typo or is it really true?
Again as tested by R&T.

With minor differences like that I would more attribute to the driver than the car
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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ook so the 10th AE still has the same 186HP that the other TII's have? because 15.1 is the same time that the S5 TII's run pushing 200HP?
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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i heard the Turbocharger Is differnet from the TII's
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Stop listening to these idiots...


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I second that!
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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i heard the Turbocharger Is differnet from the TII's
more nonsense

mechanically its just like every other 88TII

Verts are tanks compared to all the coupes.

I don't think any coupe of any trim eclipsed 3k lbs.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fc3sfreek
ook so the 10th AE still has the same 186HP that the other TII's have? because 15.1 is the same time that the S5 TII's run pushing 200HP?
Due to weight differences.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RockLobster
more nonsense

mechanically its just like every other 88TII

Verts are tanks compared to all the coupes.

I don't think any coupe of any trim eclipsed 3k lbs.
According to both Road & Track and Car and driver at the time, yes several coupes were heavier than 3K lbs in the "as Tested" weights.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 01:27 PM
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When I first got my 1991 t2, i took it to a weigh station with a half tank of gas and it weighed in at 2900lbs, completely stock with the addition of a stereo system (amps, subs, box, etc..)

Completely stock still, I ran it on a 1/4 mile and got a 14.5 time, over and over. So I dont know about the 15.1's ... You'd have to really suck to get those times or somethings up with the car.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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this is a good to know thread. i was wondering how much my 10th ae weights. my semi stock atx mazda6 ran 14.6 at 3600lbs. hoping to see wit the 10th ae can do!!!


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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Completely stock, well sans an AC belt, and a radio, my 10th AE weighed in under 2800lbs. Ater removing a couple of the options, ie. power steering, cruise control, and a couple of other things, Im near breaching the 1600lb mark.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fc3sfreek
ook so the 10th AE still has the same 186HP that the other TII's have?
182hp


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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdv519
Completely stock, well sans an AC belt, and a radio, my 10th AE weighed in under 2800lbs. Ater removing a couple of the options, ie. power steering, cruise control, and a couple of other things, Im near breaching the 1600lb mark.



1600! how did you go about doing that?

and how much did the power steering set you back... weight wise.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Maybe he meant 2600???
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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The 10th AE is scientifically proven to be 25% more sweet than any stock TII.
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Old Jul 12, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MidnightOwl
The 10th AE is scientifically proven to be 25% more sweet than any stock TII.
Who's science ? I'll take my 91 Turbo over an 10th AE anyday.
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