dwb87

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Is a 2-way Type MZ Cusco LSD worth $1,010?... how great can this be?

Apathy

1 That is the average price for a Cusco lsd so its not really a bargain if you are thinking that its cheap... I like Kaaz...

Valkyrie

IIRC, 2-way will give you lots of rear traction and stability while braking, but you'll have terrible understeer.

dwb87

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When I said "How great can this be?" I meant how great can this LSD be?... Didn't know they were somewhat expensive.

Sideways7

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I think those are best for drag cars. Depending your setup and how the clutch plates are aligned it can mess with your handling.

RETed

Cusco is one of the best aftermarket LSD (hell, suspension stuffs too) for the FC3S.
Cusco is better than KAAZ, IMNSHO.
About the only other brand compable is OS Giken in terms of LSD's for the FC.

Yes, it's worth it if you can afford it.


-Ted

Juiceh

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^ Where would one find an OS Giken FC LSD?

RETed

From an authorized OS Giken distributor?
Sorry, I don't keep an active list.
I think any GReddy dealer in the U.S.A. can get it - GReddy dealers can get OS Giken clutches...


-Ted

Risky Devil

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ATS Deftforce > *

Adam P

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buy it yu'll love it

coldfire

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is this for track use?
a 2-way diff like that is not really for street use. it can get a little dangerous on throttle lifts i have heard.

but yeah, they cost that much for a reason. if you need a LSD like that, then it is worth it.

SexInDaRex

ebay LSD $300 I have it installed and it works great!!

Oh and it's a torsen!!

classicauto

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I've heard the Kaaz can be noisy also.....

coldfire

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clutch type diffs, especially aftermarket, are for the most part quite noisy compared to other types of diffs. but if you are needing to get a $1000 2-way diff, that is probably not a concern.

andrewb70

And what exactly makes this diff better than a freshly rebuilt S4 diff?

Andrew

ProjectR13B

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i've seen it for 9 somehting somewhere. if i find the link i will show it to you. let me know how it is because i plan on buying the sam LSD haha

FC3Slider

clutch types do not make you understeer while at a road course, it just takes a different driving style. with torsen and quiafee you can be gentle and mistakes arent goign to throw you off. with 2way clutch types you need to be agressive in both accel and decel to get it to work the way you want to.

some say that a 1.5 ways are great for our cars, but imo the only option for me is a 2 way.

not all clutch types are loud. that is diff dependant. a Super Technical Traxx 24 plate 2-way lsd for the s13 is an amazing clunker. but i have seen other 2ways not clucnk.

an lsd for 1k is just about the standard rate for a great lsd, and that usually counts for install as well(+/-200).

before you amke up your mind make sure you know what you want to do with your car. if you go to gymkhanas, drift events, rallies then get a clutch type. if you road race, autocross, or do time trials then a torsen will get you around with the most constant grip. make sure you know what you want to do, because if you get the wrong clutch then it might be a little more difficult to achieve the best results that you were hoping for.

clutch type lsds come in 3 different types as well 1way 1.5 and 2 way. do a google search to find out how eash of the different types affect the load transfered on the rear wheels. i say search because i dont want to write a huge essay on the differences.

RETed

Stronger, primarily...
Probably last longer too, depending on what you do with your FC.


-Ted

andrewb70

The only possible place an S4 diff can break is at the spider gears. I have yet to see one break there. I've seen teeth taken off the ring gears and a host of other non diff related carnage. As for having an advantage on the track, I bet 98% of all FC drivers will never know the difference.

Andrew

Sideways7

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You can switch out the plates to change how it locks up as well, but you might be able to do that on the s4 diff.

RETed

I'm talking about the clutch plates.
Most aftermarket clutch-type LSD's have larger-than-stock plates.
This allows the LSD to last a lot longer.
If you're at the level where you're looking at buying these "expensive" LSD's, I would think you will know when the LSD has worn out...


-Ted

Terrh

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the S4 "clutch type" LSD's seem to wear out pretty quickly, my car has 70,000 miles on it and it's worn out to the point where if one wheel is on a very loose surface and the other is on something reasonably grippy (pavement) it'll spin one wheel relentlessly instead of getting grip.

Rotary_Redline

If u goin to the track with a 2 way lsd ur gonna end up crashing! Posi lock while down shifting holy **** massive oversteer, i want a 1.5 lsd fits my needs and i won't die d- shiftin right before a corner.

FC3Slider

amg no! 2-ways dont make you crash! it jsut takes a different approach to corner entry.

Black91n/a

I'll never buy a $300 OBX torsen from eBay. Torsens have many little gears in them and even the real ones from Quaife and so on are fragile when coupled with high HP. The ones on eBay will be cheaply made with cheap materials. Gears are hard to make and are expensive. Gears are also fragile in design, if the profile isn't right, if there's defects in the materials or the machining, their strength is severly reduced. I'd just never trust one.

Especially seeing as how the NA guys can use stock 1.8 Miata torsens and TII guys can use stock FD torsens, I see no reason to get an eBay one. Heck, the junkyard ones may even be cheaper.