KhanArtisT

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The most muscle car owners will do is drag race to 1/4 mile, maybe 1/2. And drag racing is most definitely a half-*** sport in my opinion. As mentioned before, for the most part its money = speed. Building a car to do nothing more than drive 10 seconds or less at a time in a straight line is a waste of money, IMO. I do not consider the 'Vette a muscle car in any way, shape or form. It is a sports car. As far as the Nova, if he's seriously doing 160mph+ in a Nova he needs to SLOW THE F*** DOWN.

I don't know if anyone said everyone in Japan tracks their cars. With all the mountains and tunnels that are miles long it seems that theres a large population that prefers street racing. Either way, from the info we get of cars that are built in Japan, a higher percentage will actually use it for the intended purpose when compared to the US. Not build it then take 10,000 pictures of it from some baller camera and post a thread every week about their new emblems, or polished engine bay parts while everyone rides their nuts.

Rotarybeat1287: The most I saw was some wack *** video by a stereotypically annoying Asian guy that filmed what looked to be some young ricer kids (judging by the cars) drag racing on an empty street. I don't believe that a large population there prefers drag racing. You really can't say "theres an equal amount of people" just based off of some videos you saw. Go to youtube, type in "Japan RX7 Supra" and 90% of the vids you'll see are showing circuit/touge/wangan videos.

Edit: Probably not the best idea but I have to add...you surely do sound like a fanboy. Why would you say "PS" when you live in the US and we measure using HORSEPOWER?

need RX7

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I'm all for JDM tuning, but saying there's nothing going on in the US is pretty retarded. There's plenty of people innovating with rotary technology around here, building engines to hold more power then ever before and experimenting with new parts and tuning techniques. Sure, not every car here has a body kit and stickers, but it's not like we all just stand around wallowing about in our inferiority.

Anyway, how did this argument get started for the 1000th time? Look at the cars, stfu and enjoy.

flipside27

LOL agreed.
ill clear things up

Dorifter_LEXX

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lol damn, you guys take **** way too seriously. I just wanted to share some pics.



PEACE in the MIDDLE EAST

Here's more:

http://forums.eurocca.net/showthread.php?p=518665

flipside27

dude thank you for posting
**** is amazing

Efinity

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not enough of our cars are running at any given moment? my car is about to run for the first time in 3 years, then youll see something rollin round

flipside27

hope to see it soon efinity!

need RX7

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^I love that front end. If I ever have the opportunity to build a track FC, I'm so using it. New background btw.

Hypertek

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the OP was referring to the tuning style.. more aggressive than what is typically seen around here. More adventurous to mess with the body, suspension and wheel sizing. US has great engine support dont get me wrong, alot of good stuff out here, we got Sevenstock etc.. its just everyone is soo far spread apart, you cant have a random gathering like this and have all the big heavy hitter shop cars show up.

need RX7

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So true

rommellikewhoa

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They might not be ballers but at least some of them have paint! :badum-ching!:

finishline

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shika805

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telling you man, the Japanese car industry keeps the best for themselves... we get shafted here in the states, not to mention that authentic JDM parts are readily available everywhere. Plus i bet the car scene there is totally different how we see things here

rx7racerca

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You know what I really noticed in this video: traffic gets the #*@! out of the way - other than one cube van, slower traffic all moved quickly and politely to the slow lane (left, in Japan)! That's real difficult to imagine in North America.

Agree with the earlier poster who said population density is a big part of why Japan can have big meets. Japan has 127 million people in a country about 1/3 the area of the province I live in, with a lot of that mountains, so they're mostly on the coasts. From here in Calgary (1.1million), I can drive 11 hours to Vancouver, or 12 hours to Salt Lake City, before I'll come to another city of over 1 million. If I drive to either Vancouver or Salt Lake, the population of all the towns and cities I pass through in that 11-12 hour drive doesn't add up to 1 million. Other than parts of the US east coast and California, southern Ontario, and the northern Midwest, most of North America is empty space, with a long way before the next major population centre. That makes it hard for enthusiasts to get together, and hard for businesses catering to specialty markets (like marque-specific tuning or customizing) to find enough customers to make a go of it. You can ship parts, but you can't ship labour and skills readily.

Renton

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This is the cancer that's killing /7/

You guys are handed gold, but you start arguing over **** you have no experience in while using Initial D and sped up honda videos as evidence.

rommellikewhoa

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on a side note, /b/ is up today wooo.

but yes, i agree with you.

classicauto

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Exactly, spread very far apart.

And also, this isn't a random meet. its 7/7. Its Japan's sevenstock.......you have to compare apples to apples. This isn't a saturday hard park at the ******* A&W


I don't really consider the vette muscle either, just tossing out an example. The guy has a crap load of cars....also, if you saw the Nova in question you would know that 160mph is what he'll be winding past at the 1000ft mark. Its an 8 second car.

Also to the comments of money = speed.

YOU"RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. However it applies to all forms of racing when you're talking about competition. I don't mean "who has the shitiest, cheapest car that actually survives a few track days" and calls themselves a racer......I mean go look at real race cars like the spped source RX-8 for example and tell me where in the equation does money NOT factor into that?? Even small tiem racers like some of the local 7 guys around here. If you TRACK your car, anyone, you will attest to the massive cost of it. Fuel. Tires. Entry fee. Registry fee (depending on your class). Repairs (cuz **** always breaks....) Real racing costs real piles of money - no matter whether you're going straight, turning without sliding, turning with sliding or not. Its all money.....so its not a good argument to use when trying to elevate one form of racing higher then the next.

I mean I hate to throw out the example - but look at F1. They are the most expensive cars on the planet - and also happen to be the fastest, its no coincidence.

CARS TAKE MONEY. And usually don't give it back. Just because you don't like drag racing don't say its because it costs too much money, especially while in the same breathe you would bust a nut over some $5000 JDM *rims*......****.....lol

rotarybeat1287

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Right... b/c you just assume that I sit on my *** and "Go to youtube and type away" to base my replies on what the internet provides. Well I was mainly going off of when I vacationed to Japan w/ my dad when I was younger, not into cars like I am now but knew what they were and what I liked and passing strip after strip along w/ seeing loads of cars lined up and whizzing by racing while we were walking to restaurants, etc.

It was just as much if not more than what I have seen here in the states. How can you say that they don't care for it? I'm not backing it up b/c I don't like drag racing but you take one of the largest car scenes and cram it into how small Japan is then you will get the walks of many different fields whether it be circuit racing, running the mountains, or drag racing and what not.

I'll put it in terms you can understand: a simple youtube search would reveal some videos for you to view if that's what you want. lol. http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...rch_type=&aq=f

But you can throw accusations all day @ how you think I'm a fanboy or whatever I can do it to! I still think your a wannabe asian. I told you a long time ago to come drive w/ me on my roads and we could have some fun and duke it out but now that you're a flatlander I don't think I want to drive spiritedly through any roads w/ you. How's Florida? lol.

Anywho, end rant: No hard feelings but I just think you jump to any chance to prove how big your E-dick is w/ how smart you think you feel through a keyboard. I promise I won't take it personal.

duo2999

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i liked all the pictures

Risky Devil

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HEY.

Whats up guys

GO OUTSIDE & RELAX

p4nc7

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What front end is that on the FC that flipside posted? I've seen ONE on these boards. I fell in love with it when I saw it on that white FC in a random B/W picture.

Risky Devil

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B-Wave.

rxdrift7

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+1 There is a small ripped off RELAX sticker on my car. I dig the mentality, and it is exactly how I approach life.

This thread got stupid fast. Sure the title isn't the best, but focus on the amazing, weird, and confusing things Japanese 7 tuners and owners have done to the cars we love.

KhanArtisT

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Classicauto: No doubt that cars take money. Generally speaking, drag racing is more about money than autox or mountain racing. The simple fact that you can't spend $5000 on suspension mods and another $1000 on tires and become fast all of a sudden is what separates the two forms of motorsport. A similar analogy for drag racing would be spending 6k on a turbo upgrade and running 11s. Please don't preach on about how hard it is to set up or drive a car to run 11s...And as far as the JDM wheels comment. Well um...I have AMERICAN RACING wheels on my car, I think if i were into Jap wheels I'd have sportmax or rotas. Regardless, I have no interest in spending thousands on wheels when the money can be better spent.

Rotarybeat: First of all, I AM ASIAN YOU DIP-****. I'm surprised you even replied after I called you out on saying PS to be a fanboi. Secondly, you have maybe two combined pages of actual relevant Japanese drag racing videos in your search. Like I said, search Japan RX7 Supra 240SX Skyline and compare. I'm not surprised that you're talking **** again, really. Quick to try and setup races when you know I'm a long distance away. Whatever makes you feel good guy.

classicauto

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I didn't direct the money comment at you. There was some one who said money=power and thats all that drag is about...paraphrasing there. Same with the wheel comment - I'm sure the same person who said that likes nice JDM wheels, nothing wrong with that but it takes money to buy them to do whatever you want to do with them which is why the money point is entirely a dead end.

It takes money to do all forms of racing. It takes skill to do all forms of racing. Saying one form takes more or less of one or the other is idiotic - they all require those two basic things.

And I won't preach about the difficulty of 11's because they are not that difficult Go try to run a ten flat and tell me how much practice that takes (anyone who thinks drag racing is about money )

Everything to do with pushign a car to its limit is difficult and requires cash and skill. Thats a period back there BTW!