lonetlan

^^ Thats why I'm going to attach an air filter to one of the two fans, so my garage will recirculate clean air. Since the recent ice storm, under a shaded tree is out of the question because some of the big branches are just hanging and fall at unpredictable timing. The weather outside for the forecast will be from around 50-60 to 60-65. I have a big compressor, i don't know the dimensions but its the size of 2 standard propane tanks that go into a grill. I'm having a hard time think of were to construct this temporary paint booth because, my garage can fit two cars, but we have an 67 jag that I REALLY don't want to get overspray on. my shed is 6"too small for my car, but my backyard is a 1acre square plain that I could make. How about this, at the church I go to for Boy scouts, I can borrow a wall tent that I know for sure my car can fit in; use some tarp I have so I don't ruin the fabric, and to "the buisness there"? Shouldn't be just as effective? Also, I don't have any ideal place to store the paint and the other included items.

sub9lulu

iTrader: (7)

there u go
back yard + tent + compressor that u already have
buy a couple gallon of paint and a gun

start working on ur car and post pic already
why u still typing in front of ur computer.

dawicka2

^^^^Cant argue with that....... jump into it and learn. Dont forget the inline dryer (ask me how i know) water and primer aren't that good of friends. I got to go to sleep....jesus.

john ny

lonetlan

I'm waiting until the weekend. I'm waking up early to do some scout stuff and take tent, and my rx7 is scheduled for new tires, springs, and brakes while I can still use a rack, and while I'm out, I have to pick up the supplies. Its going to be fun, but what stinks is that I promised to pick my friend up from work at 9pm, I know for sure nothing is going to be cured by then. It will be a big day. I appreciate all the help and support you guys did. If I fail, I got a 60% discount at the shop that said my paint job is $880; courtesy of my shop teacher.

dawicka2

You wont fail if you take all the necessary precautions to a decent conditioned paint job. "Final wash" is your friend.

If there is a chance of rain, go hiking or something.......dnt even attempt to shoot the car that day.

Good luck....you will do just fine.

john ny

Icemark

Not in clean air states... maybe in the South where you live, but most clean air states have very very specific requirements for filtering and disposing and even of the paint type used.

In fact the paint used in the BMW plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina is now water borne to prevent gassing of any VOCs into the atmosphere and most states now specify that paint/body shops can only use VLVOC paint.

lonetlan

We don't have VOC restrictions yet, we can use both until we do

lonetlan

ha! compressor hose broke, it rained, tent fell down, I left my camera outside. Its wet, dead and won't work. My car's bodywork needs to be redone, and I need to reprimer it. Wow this stinks. I needed this painted soon, and I blew it. Sorry to let down all the pro painters and bodymen, but now my only choice is to wait until a sunny day and try out the roller paint job until I can try this again on a better day.
Man, I was on a roll. Eh, I read a bunch on that Rustoleum paint job and it doesn't seem hard for $100. But its only temporary. Sorry to let you all down, but I almost cried

Darvus the Dinosuar

i wasnt painting my whole car. but i was taking off some rust spots and repainting it with spray paint.

Hypertek

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if its lil **** to hold you off til you get a full paint job i think tis alright, like front lips..

francogt1

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I just order my paint, from the website Icemark suggested, they mix the paint and put it in spray cans witch is great since i dont have to paint to big of parts. i will get the bumpers sides and lip painted in a body shop.

NCross

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Bumpers, sides, and lips are all the easiest things to rattle can! Small flat surfaces.

Hoods and doors are the most difficult.

If you take your time, remove the panels in question, and mask everything off well you can do a great rattle can job on a car. As far as money and effort go though... it's a waste... You can buy REAL paint and rent an air compressor and do it right for way cheaper and it will turn out way better.

cambam3486

i live in oklahoma and have a falling apart barn you can use to build a paint booth. if you paint my car too. jk kinda. but anyway take your time i happen to have a mad max crackhead flat black fc and once the weather picks back up that car will get done quick.

lonetlan

I don't have time to leave my car at a bodyshop. I have an air compressor(i can't find were i said i didn't)but I don't have a paintgun. My bucket of primer has some water in it. I sold my white and black paint cans to a friend. This paintjob is just temporary guys, just until summer, I'm going to send my engine to get rebuilt, and while I have the rest of the car, I'm going to paint it. I still don't have an explanation for the wall tent I used, my troop aren't mad, they are disapointed. Weather here since my last post has been so, so. I look up at the sky and think it will rain, but its just cold, there was one sunny day, but I used it up trying to figure out my gas mileage. My car still looks bad, but I'm working on it. My bro gave me his camera.

rxdrift7

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Have you looked around your area to see if there are paint booths you can rent? There is a local military base where I live and they have an auto hobby shop. This includes a professional paint booth.

I had an Air Force friend get my car on base and we sprayed it with a single stage Mazda color. They had a gun and a compressor and I only had to supply the paint, which was roughly 200 for all the supplies (I didn't pay for it, friend had it all left over from a previous build). Only cost 20 bucks to rent the booth for a full day and night to dry. Turned out pretty good till I have enough for a proper base clear job (check sig and avatar for pics).

Call around see if you can find a place like this local to you. You may never know you might be surprised what you can dig up!

classicauto

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Not correct. There's multiple stage filters in *certified* facility. Junior Johnny's body shop might just blow it out a hole in the wall, but its not the way it is for people who abide by the laws. And a "junior johnny shop" would also include anyone who's spraying cars in their driveway or under trees............c'mon.

And eviromental doesn't stop at the paint exiting the gun nozzle. What do you clean your gun with at home? Where does that solvent go? I highly doubt you've got a solvent recycling system in your laundry room. What about the emissions off the paint when you mix it? Is that getting filtered? What about the dust off of the bodywork? Getting filtered through any activated charcoal?

I'm not attacking - it just jerks my chain when people think its so damn simple.

I believe California is all waterborne at this point no? They're always leading the way over there, and in Jan 2010 it will be illegal in Canada to sell solvent borne basecoats. We're making the switch over the summer.

Also, on the enviromental note, CA (among few other states I beleive) has a VOC cap. A shop is only alowed to emit so many VOC's per day. But if you're an awesome dude who has no shop and doesn't give a ****, you can buy 3 gallons of primer and spray it all in an hour in your driveway

Water in your bucket of primer?


If the paint job is temproary, then in all seriousness - WHY ARE YOU DOING IT? You're making more work for yourself by putting **** material on the body because it'll all be coming off when you redo it. Its one thing to paint the car properly and change things down the road, but if you're PLANNING on more at the moment, at least just do areas that concern you as opposed to covering the car in a blanket of poop that will need to be stripped off in 3 months.

Live with it, save some money, do it right the first time.

lonetlan

I looked around for paintbooths that I can use locally, about 80% of the shops here are like production shops, and they don't have time to let me spray my car, even when these shops are closed, they refused. The 20% that thought about it, gave an argument about the price. The lowest would let me in there for $300, which is a big rip off because I told him that if I can for cheaper I was going to just use the booth, and none of the materials. I just said no.
There are no VOC's enforced in Oklahoma yet. My primer was very runny, so I through it out. It sounds stupid to spray paint the car now and just redo it later, but to me its a try before you buy, It may look horrible, but since I want to at least practice my bodywork skills, its benefiting me. My method has changed to the roller paint. I read a bunch over the last 2 weeks and since I got all weekend, I'm doing it. Its going to rain tonight, but should clear up in the day. I understand that you guys have really good connections to places that let you paint your car, I'm just the unlucky one. Read about the paint roller one, its very fascinating. But time consuming

classicauto

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If you're looking to learn, don't rattle can it OR roll it.

Neither of those methods are going to teach you anything of value about body work. Other then sanding is a pain and do it right the first time.

If you want practice, pick one panel on the car, repair it and prime it with good etch primer + high build. That will teach you vastly more about body work then buying a gallon of rustoleum, mixing it with mineral spirits and rolling it all over the place. Then when you're done, do another one. By the time you're done the car it'll be summer, you'll have a wicked - long lasting - paint job in the works and you'll be learning real skills.

EDIT: Obviously its your own car, you can and will do whatever you want. I just utterly cringe that people actually think this **** is a good idea. I mean seriously

But here's the thing. You're already buying.

You don't have a spray gun right? You have any putty laying around the house? A spreader? Sandpaper? Primer? the actual paint? Yes, its all "cheap" but the $50 paint job is only a $50 paint job if you have **everything else** you'll need except the can of paint. Guys always mention "oh that charger I read about on teh intrawebs was painted for $50" BULLSHIT. He wetsanded and buffed the entire car. Trust me, try colour sanding and polishing an entire car and tell me how much compound you used. Hint - it'll be roughly one bottle (which is about $80CDN) You get what you pay for is true, and its also true that there's no ******* way to paint a whole car for $50 unless you omit about 70% of the things used to do it.

Not to mention, say you actually decide down the road you want it done right. Whether you pay someone else to do it or decide to do it yourself, you've now created EASILY 2-3 times more work then it would've been if you'd just left it alone. So instead of trying now and buying later, you're buying now and possibly buying more and more expensive work in the future. Think about it.

lonetlan

I have already done my bodywork, Its ready for paint. I have grits: 40, 80, 180, 320, 600, 800, and 1200. I have a 1 gallon can of that 3m plastic filler and hardener(1/2 size of tooth paste tube). A book of "filler paper"(like a big post-it note for mixing filler) small, medium, and large sanding blocks, body hammers, dolleys, and an air compressor. This is basically all I have to work with. Like stated before, I have no paint booth, sweet hookups, or a functioning paint gun(tip of the needle is bent). People changed my mind on this earlier to give it a shot with a gun, but it was my fault that I ruined it. I would like to try it again, but it would be while until that. I literally have all day to just paint my car. Heres a deal, If this weekend doesn't work out, I will try to get some money to buy a paint gun, and some more paint and primer. I know that 11 miles away is an airfield, that I am just going to paint my car in an airplane hanger regardless. BUT, that is if something happends this weekend restricting me from the doing it the $50 dollar way. I may result to plan B because the wind won't die down. I have to get it right the first time. I hate this weather sometimes.

future RS

i painted my Rx7 myself outside, similar to what your doing.. its not as hard as it seems. just time consuming.
took me a couple of Saturdays to get mine done.

some pics for motivation.

lonetlan

Future RS, I like the Panda Rx-7

I'm painting mine black, with the roller paint, because It is $98.86 that is including the paint rollers(4) and I straight stole the plastic trays(7), and 4 cans of Satin Black Rustoleum paint. I am totally going to do this. You guys really convinced me that "its only $200 to paint your car with a paint gun and a stuff"(not exact quote), but I am not capable to re-gather all the materials to try that again. I plan to go to a bodyshop in the summer, but if something happens, than at least its a good paintjob for me. By the way its my car, I have made my ultimate decision. Spray can and roller paint job are almost even in workmanship and time.

future RS

well best of luck. just thought i would share what a drive way job can look like.

BTW i didnt even make my own booth for this job... it was done on a sunny day with a very light breeze. sure i got a couple of spots that could be better but it was quick and easy...

make sure to post up some pictures of the car when your done. if you were local i would lend a hand!

dawicka2

I agree..................future rs' car does look really good.

Dont paint your car with a roller. You are blaming an entire (correct) method for a poorly constructed booth and rain.

Use screws, 2x4s and the weather channel.

"Taking your time" is your friend.


john ny