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Old 02-28-12, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by andycivic
I have no doubt that they can get it running... But they are NOT gonna be able to keep it cool...
As this is a DRAG car, cooling won't be as much of an issue compared to a street driven car
Old 02-28-12, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 87 t-66
anyone have a picture of the crank?
Id like to see this also. must look nuts
Old 02-28-12, 09:48 PM
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I see it being a drag car and workin I knew it wasn't gonna be a street car or a road race car.. This engine is gonna be amazing no doubt but when lmp cars can barely keep a 4 rotor cool with 5 and 6 radiators a six rotar isn't plausable... I wanna hear it as well...!!!
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A well designed cooling system with proper ducting will do the trick.

My old koyo with proper electric fan struggled to keep my engine cool, it was always 90-95C.

On trackdays temp would build up after about 10mins so i needed to stop and cool down.

My new v-mount setup with EWP barely takes an effort, the fans dont even turn on unless i stop and they come on at 85C
Old 03-01-12, 02:21 AM
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dont see it happening...

cooling
gas
e-shaft balancing

ill believe it when i see it up and running

who knows if they can make a 4 rotor why not 6? that radiator is going to have to be huge!

i say around 3000+ hp they need to make a HYBRID ROTARY!
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It's going to sound like world war 3 and possibly cause earthquakes, and tsunamis on startup.
Old 03-03-12, 08:09 AM
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P.P.R.E Pulse Performance Race Engineering (OFFICIAL) We can get certified for these modifications to become street legal, there is certain criteria that needs to be meet ofcourse & thats why we still hav original floor pan ect, Its certainly not easy but is possible.
Old 06-09-12, 06:10 PM
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for all the disbelievers get on the P.P.R.E Pulse Performance Race Engineering (OFFICIAL) facebook page and check the updates. it's getting closer. can't wait. updates are all on their timeline.
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bloody close now

http://www.facebook.com/PulsePerformance

Its been balanced.
They have the intake manifolds and exhaust done.
Its a drag car and NA, so cooling wont be to hard.
Gas... why would that even be a issue ?

Only real question now is how long will be be till it running for the first time

Well done PPRE.
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Gas an issue because that thing will be getting around 5mpgs at a cruising speed. Being a drag car it will be getting 1 haha.

Cooling on a drag car turns into a HUGE issue on hot laps. If you enter a tournament of sorts, and happen to have to run 3-4 runs back to back... Talk about getting hot.
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Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
Gas an issue because that thing will be getting around 5mpgs at a cruising speed. Being a drag car it will be getting 1 haha.

Cooling on a drag car turns into a HUGE issue on hot laps. If you enter a tournament of sorts, and happen to have to run 3-4 runs back to back... Talk about getting hot.
back to back runs in the NZ drag scene... Haven't seen that before. OR just run it on E85 or Meth and you hardly need to cool it.

Cant see Fuel ever been a issue in a drag car. Its like saying Nitro funny cars wont work because you will run out of fuel.... you just design for it, like everything else.

Such pessimists you yanks.
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Have you ever run a 6 rotor car down the track back to back? It will be tough keeping it cool, no matter what.

And as for fuel, that thing will need a MASSIVE fuel setup. No ones saying it can't be done. I guess it comes down to logical thinking. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As Chris Rock once said, you can drive down the interstate with your feet, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

I guess I'm one of those people that think more like, if something can be done reliably one way, why try to make it more complicated? Why open up the possibility of catastrophic failure that will cause fortunes to repair?

I give them props for the idea and actually going for it. But to me, it's overkill and really is rather pointless. There will probably be zero market for another one, so it's basically just a waste of assets.
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if everyone had that kind of why bother and develop an idea attitude imagine all the things we wouldn't have in the world. you don't know til you try. mad mike wouldn't be drifting a 26b if it weren't for the why not, give it a go kiwi attitude. mazda would have never even started the rotary experiment if they went with the pessimistic why try approach.and that's a world I don't wanna live in
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Originally Posted by ben.farnath
if everyone had that kind of why bother and develop an idea attitude imagine all the things we wouldn't have in the world. you don't know til you try. mad mike wouldn't be drifting a 26b if it weren't for the why not, give it a go kiwi attitude. mazda would have never even started the rotary experiment if they went with the pessimistic why try approach.and that's a world I don't wanna live in
yeaaaaaa
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From what i've read this car will be running on the NZ streets.. not just drag
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Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
Have you ever run a 6 rotor car down the track back to back? It will be tough keeping it cool, no matter what.
you have no idea... seriously..

Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
And as for fuel, that thing will need a MASSIVE fuel setup. No ones saying it can't be done. I guess it comes down to logical thinking. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As Chris Rock once said, you can drive down the interstate with your feet, but that doesn't make it a good idea.
yep... cant wait till PPRE hit that brick wall of not being able to fuel it... (seriously you think that's a issue ? )

Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
I guess I'm one of those people that think more like, if something can be done reliably one way, why try to make it more complicated? Why open up the possibility of catastrophic failure that will cause fortunes to repair?
yep thanks for your boring conservative outlook.

Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
I give them props for the idea and actually going for it. But to me, it's overkill and really is rather pointless. There will probably be zero market for another one, so it's basically just a waste of assets.
you kidding ? The amount hype and the incredible marketing something like this has pay for itself.. Just because their not turning over 10 of these a week doesn't mean its not profitable. Most companies will do unique projects (with no profit) just to build a name and generate interest, this is no different.

Originally Posted by ben.farnath
if everyone had that kind of why bother and develop an idea attitude imagine all the things we wouldn't have in the world. you don't know til you try. mad mike wouldn't be drifting a 26b if it weren't for the why not, give it a go kiwi attitude. mazda would have never even started the rotary experiment if they went with the pessimistic why try approach.and that's a world I don't wanna live in
spot on
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Originally Posted by Havoc

you kidding ? The amount hype and the incredible marketing something like this has pay for itself.. Just because their not turning over 10 of these a week doesn't mean its not profitable. Most companies will do unique projects (with no profit) just to build a name and generate interest, this is no different
especially after the success of building madmike's 26b and the sprint boat they get international orders for the quad rotors consistently. I think people might just be interested in the 6 rotor too. haha
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ppre is the leading rotary shop pumping out 26b engines all over the world. what is the second one? kiwire. if ppre thought like ben and never built mad mikes engine do you think they would have all the international work coming their way no. you dont see the point in the 6rotor? what about breaking records? what about streaming more work their way? what about being the 1st to do a running road legal 6rotor automobile? and bro thats just how we roll.

do you realy think they have not thought about the fuel? come on man sharpen up.

and nz has 4.5milion people drag racing is big over here but not big enuf to run back to back i have never seen it ever, in saying that if it did happen do you really think they have not thought about it.

thats my rant for the day peace maggots
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Originally Posted by jerd_hambone
Have you ever run a 6 rotor car down the track back to back? It will be tough keeping it cool, no matter what.

And as for fuel, that thing will need a MASSIVE fuel setup. No ones saying it can't be done. I guess it comes down to logical thinking. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. As Chris Rock once said, you can drive down the interstate with your feet, but that doesn't make it a good idea.

I guess I'm one of those people that think more like, if something can be done reliably one way, why try to make it more complicated? Why open up the possibility of catastrophic failure that will cause fortunes to repair?

I give them props for the idea and actually going for it. But to me, it's overkill and really is rather pointless. There will probably be zero market for another one, so it's basically just a waste of assets.
You just simply have no idea..... the fuel system doesnt need to be "massive", as they could easily setup one long *** fuel rail being fed with both ends and two returns in between... or they could have two sections feeding 3 rotors, or 3 sections feeding 2 rotors...... You are simply over complicating things as if they are doomed to fail.

What makes this 6 rotor build ANY different than a 2,3, or 4 rotor? its length... thats it

And what makes you so sure that they will have issues with the engines cooling? You dont know, NO ONE knows..... everyone has issues with cooling at some point in their build. Whether its a 1.3 or 2.0 or 2.6, but somehow many people have figured it out and are running better than OEM temperatures.


You're simply not a dreamer... this whole "why bother with the why nots" is completely stupid..... Im sure the Wright brothers said "why not try and go farther and longer", Im sure Dr. Felix Wankel said "why not make something different", im sure that in certain countries the regulations committees said "why not, lets show some naked women on tv and allow cursing", Albert Einstien and other scientists probably said "why not spend our lives contemplating about the great mysteries of the universe"
And hundreds of people on youtube went "why not make videos, i'll get paid" and they've made quite a living by posting nonsense, some making six figures.



And when does it really matter how much it costs to run this thing? When you have a reputation for building some of the best rotary cars in the world and a seemingly limitless income... WHY NOT!?

Dont concern yourself with such things that dont pertain to you because you're only going to be miserable and a skeptic.

Seems like you were "that kid" in elementary school that always had to ruin the best and fantastical ideas because you didnt have an imagination.

Some of the best things we have are from wild imaginations...... Otherwise, we wouldnt have space travel, or the planning of colonizing a nearby planet.
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. if ppre thought like ben
like me???
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Originally Posted by ben.farnath
like me???
omg i fucked up lol i ment jerd lol sorry dude!
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