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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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<snip> going to coil overs and all the other race goodies on a vehicle not 100% track dedicated is kind of crazy.
I am soooo wounded to hear you say that.. Combining the coilovers with adjustable shocks (set on 1 for the street) isn't really crazy--just joyous.

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<snip> a 400+ HP RX-7 is ridiculously fast and dangerous. Go down a gear on the highway, plant the pedal, and you better be damn sure you have enough room because odds are the car is sideways.
...and I just love it! "Sideways" is usually controllable in dry weather.

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<snip>Merging onto the highway under wide open throttle in a 400+ HP RX-7 is a dangerous thing to do anyway. It just takes a quick run through 3rd and 4th before doubling the speed limit and travelling too quickly to merge.
The first time I took the RXX-7 onto the freeway, I looked through the windshield and thought, "Why in the hell is that truck backing up out here?" Then I looked at the speedometer and realized he wasn't.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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depends on the level of the coilovers, i have my HKS hyper D's set to the lowest and it's barely tolerable on rough roads.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Didn't see that. But I'll stand with driving a slow car fast/well feels more rewarding.
agreed.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 07:08 PM
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like everything else, coil overs do not mean that it rides bad. in our little group we've got 3 FC's

the first one is a stock original 87 GXL with 76,000miles. #2 has AGX's with 320lbsin front springs and 225 lbs in rear. the third is a GTUs with konis and 400lbsin front and 250 rears. these two have cooil over/camber plates.

out of the 3 the GTUs rides the best. the SHOCK has a huge influence on ride quality, and handling.

the stock car and the #2 car (its also an 87 gxl) ride about the same.

all the coil overs really do anyways is let you align the car better, and set the ride height (which ends up being maybe -1" from stock in the real world, california has HUGE holes in the roads, a blind person can tell when you leave california in a car)
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:39 PM
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... california has HUGE holes in the roads, a blind person can tell when you leave california in a car)
I've heard it is accurate, but let me tell you, that you may seriously broke your suspension, dent your wheels and put to garbage your alignment in a small time lapse driving here. It feels like third world pavement. It could hurt your back, !
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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coil overs set right are one thing, coil overs just to have some poke and stretch nonsense is another.

The tein;s I had on my coupe I would never subject myself to that again, to actually hit the roof with my head on a bumpy road at 80mph is not even remotely cool or enjoyable, and I am not a tall person.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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I agree with all the non engine stuff in this thread, Keep an interior, something approaching a nice ride quality and that sort of thing.
As far as engine stuff, most of you seem to me to have a turbo issues. They are rather on or off and make it so you spend half your time making sure the turbo is acting like you want. I.E. don't get the revs too high, back off throttle and the like. Get a good LS type motor and hey, no non linear throttle response, no I'm gonna die in the rain if it spools and that kind of thing. I had a turbo and these things used to drive me nuts. In the 'vert, you can have all the power, none of it, or anywhere in between with instantaneous response. I'd never have changed to an LS if emissions tests wern't so nearly impossible but there are a great many good side effects from the LS swap. OK, now I promise to stay out of this so as to prevent the near inevitable war that will follow.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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I think the first thing you need to decide is what rpms you want to make power at and build according to that.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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As far as engine stuff, most of you seem to me to have a turbo issues. They are rather on or off and make it so you spend half your time making sure the turbo is acting like you want. I.E. don't get the revs too high, back off throttle and the like. Get a good LS type motor and hey, no non linear throttle response, no I'm gonna die in the rain if it spools and that kind of thing. I had a turbo and these things used to drive me nuts. In the 'vert, you can have all the power, none of it, or anywhere in between with instantaneous response. I'd never have changed to an LS if emissions tests wern't so nearly impossible but there are a great many good side effects from the LS swap.
I also stated that I drove almost everything that has been commercially available in the past 10 years, and the car that still makes me smile the most is the RX-7 TII. What is making me smile is not just the look of it, nor this only includes the feeling of the steering wheel, but also the lag, and especially the turbo spooling feeling. I like everything an RX-7 can provide and I am searching to improve these feeling, thus the rotary turbocharged feeling is essential for me. If I wanted an LS, I'd buy a Corvette, thank you.

More than that, if I wanted a piston engine powered car, I'd choose a Lexus IS300 as I love them even with automatic transmissions to say the least or a V8 S4 for sufficient power and more comfort than any FC or corvettes ever made. But that is not the subject here. So thank you for your input, but I'll continue my path to build an overall balanced FC, sporting the famous rotary engine

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OK, now I promise to stay out of this so as to prevent the near inevitable war that will follow.
Thank you kindly for your understanding.
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by clubber
I agree with all the non engine stuff in this thread, Keep an interior, something approaching a nice ride quality and that sort of thing.
As far as engine stuff, most of you seem to me to have a turbo issues. They are rather on or off and make it so you spend half your time making sure the turbo is acting like you want. I.E. don't get the revs too high, back off throttle and the like.
It's so tempting to go big with a turbo, and that leads to these inevitable issues.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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everything has inevitable issues.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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i love my tiny turbo, I caught alot of **** for it but the dyno numbers shut everyone right up, you almost cant drive the car without it spooling thats how easy it goes into boost, no switch just smooth power . I keep meaning to do a go-pro video of it
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wankelgrandfather
...if I wanted a piston engine powered car, ... but I'll continue my path to build an overall balanced FC, sporting the famous rotary engine
Tru dat...


My '02 Firehawk was one of the most gratifying cars I've ever owned, I love LS series engines, even the one in my truck...it screams! but I would never cut up an RX-7 to do that to it. If you do that, then you didn't want and RX-7 in the first place.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wankelgrandfather
I've heard it is accurate, but let me tell you, that you may seriously broke your suspension, dent your wheels and put to garbage your alignment in a small time lapse driving here. It feels like third world pavement. It could hurt your back, !
we have a freeway that'll ruin your neck if the car is too stiff!

Originally Posted by Rob XX 7
coil overs set right are one thing, coil overs just to have some poke and stretch nonsense is another.

The tein;s I had on my coupe I would never subject myself to that again, to actually hit the roof with my head on a bumpy road at 80mph is not even remotely cool or enjoyable, and I am not a tall person.
agreed. i want the camber in the front more than anything else, but just to lower the car springs are super simple.

and yeah tein is like the high end of junk, lol. its actually amazing how nice you can get the ride, even with stiff springs when the shocks are right.
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Old Nov 2, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Martin from Canada who bought the coupe says he will be in town Saturday with the car, he changed the coil overs I cant wait to see how it rides
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Old Nov 3, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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A car will only become boring if you lose your passion for that specific ride. its not a matter of how much power its more dependent on setting your car for the kind of driving you do.
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