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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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You could at least save a bunch of parts from going to waste though. But I'm sure the gov't has found a way to jack up the prices, gotta make back some of that money somehow .
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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my dad works at a volvo dealer and next to it there's a mazda dealer, he says that he saw many rx7's get traded for new cars, and that the mechanics had to empty out the oil and put in another chemical and run the engine until in seized and then they were towed out and taken to yunkyards( and i wasn't even allowed to take any parts off of them while they were sitting at the dealer)
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:07 PM
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I remember sending a message to that guy about the car. It was out of my price range at the time.... damn shame. Even if the VIN was invalidated, just get a crappy *** shell and take the VIN plate and sticker off of it and put it on the good one. I know its illegal as hell, but for the chance to get it back.... who knows
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:19 PM
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You could at least save a bunch of parts from going to waste though. But I'm sure the gov't has found a way to jack up the prices, gotta make back some of that money somehow .
The "govt" has nothing to do with the prices that junkyards set.
My local yard has had several C4C RX7s- including a very nice white convertible- and prices on parts pulled from them are just like any other car.
It's all just scrap as far as they're concerned.

Regardless of what your political leanings might be, it's stupid to blame lawyers, politicians, Obama or anyone except the owners for the RXs that were destroyed.
They're the ones who valued the cash over the car, no one forced them into it.
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
The "govt" has nothing to do with the prices that junkyards set.
My local yard has had several C4C RX7s- including a very nice white convertible- and prices on parts pulled from them are just like any other car.
It's all just scrap as far as they're concerned.

Regardless of what your political leanings might be, it's stupid to blame lawyers, politicians, Obama or anyone except the owners for the RXs that were destroyed.
They're the ones who valued the cash over the car, no one forced them into it.
Thank you about time someone pointed that out. I couldnt agree more.
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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Bah, I'm just blinded by rage.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 12:25 AM
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On page 26 of the February 2010 issue of "Car and Driver," they mentioned a few of the desireable cars that got scrapped in the "Cash for Clunkers" program. I don't know where they got their data, but supposedly there was exactly one 1993 FD RX-7, one 2005 RX-8, a 1991 BMW M3, a 1991 BMW M5, a 1997 Aston Martin DB7 Volante and nine 1990-1992 Mercedes 500SLs! I've also seen a claim in some other source that a late 1990s Bentley was scrapped in the program.

It's kind of hard to imagine that none of these cars was worth more than $4500 in the secondary market, assuming they were all driveable.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 01:01 AM
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It's kind of hard to imagine that none of these cars was worth more than $4500 in the secondary market, assuming they were all driveable.
some people are desperate.

it saddens us all... but lets never forget to never get rid of our cars. find some place to stash it, and just leave it. ****, leave it in a barn for 10 years if i care.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by juan0
my dad works at a volvo dealer and next to it there's a mazda dealer, he says that he saw many rx7's get traded for new cars, and that the mechanics had to empty out the oil and put in another chemical and run the engine until in seized and then they were towed out and taken to yunkyards( and i wasn't even allowed to take any parts off of them while they were sitting at the dealer)
I watched them do it to a old 84 Nissan pick-up truck a old guy was trading in at my friends job (a dealership). Like you said, they dumped all the oil out of the motor, started it and basically dumped stuff that looked like salt in the intake while it was running. His boss said they were told to do it to all the cars that came in (for the cash for clunkers).

Theirs just a image of them in my mind pouring that crap in the TID on the TII...
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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Well, you're not alone as there were 373 RX-7's turned in along with:
97 Corvettes

1987 Duntov GT
1987 Buick ASC GNX
1997 Aston Martin DB7 Volante
1997 Bentley Continental R
1992 GMC Typhoon
2006 Nissan 350Z Roadster
2006 Roush Stage 3 F-150

Just to highlight a few.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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i blame it on the location, no offense, but probably not enough import car enthusiast in that area that would have wanted it and appreciated it.. =(
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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I guess some of the Clunkerized cars might have needed some expensive repairs when they were traded, hence their being dumped. For example, when the transmission my dad's 2003 Volvo XC90 went out, the dealer quoted him $5800 for the repairs so he sold the car for about $2500. If the Cash for Clunkers program had been going then, he'd have been thrilled to get $4500 for it. Technically, that car was still "drivable," though it was making some horrible noises.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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here are a few pictures of the car when i had it about two years ago.
Attached Thumbnails Beatuiful 89 TII ...Crushed!-autotrade.jpg   Beatuiful 89 TII ...Crushed!-rx7-finished-016.jpg   Beatuiful 89 TII ...Crushed!-rx7-finished-025.jpg   Beatuiful 89 TII ...Crushed!-rx7-finished-165.jpg   Beatuiful 89 TII ...Crushed!-sccasolo071507_023.jpg  

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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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i hope the guy used the program to get a bad *** car.. if he traded it in for a new american car just to have that car be worth the same as the rx7 in 2-3 years lol
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Probably a Camry or something.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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long as he didnt get a chrysler branded car, those seem to drop like rocks within a few years lol
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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This was quite painful to read

yes that was...


that kid was a god damn moron.


edit after seeing pictures: who the right mind junks a car in that kind of condition!?
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Forgive me, but the government is responsible for the way the program is set up. It makes sense to have people trade in "clunkers" which in many case are far from the clunker state, and for the said vehicles to then have the engine damaged for no reason at all.

It doesn't make sense to have people trade in something of value and then for that thing to be wasted when it could be resold to make money for someone else.

It is just another case of a genius liberal idea to "boost" the economy when in reality, it is a trick to put Americans farther into debt so that we will then have no choice but to submit to the marxist policies of our corrupt congress and it's new puppet.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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Forgive me, but the government is responsible for the way the program is set up. It makes sense to have people trade in "clunkers" which in many case are far from the clunker state, and for the said vehicles to then have the engine damaged for no reason at all.

It doesn't make sense to have people trade in something of value and then for that thing to be wasted when it could be resold to make money for someone else.

It is just another case of a genius liberal idea to "boost" the economy when in reality, it is a trick to put Americans farther into debt so that we will then have no choice but to submit to the marxist policies of our corrupt congress and it's new puppet.
Very entertaining.
Completely illogical and simplistic but entertaining nonetheless.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
Very entertaining.
Completely illogical and simplistic but entertaining nonetheless.
Care to explain what you mean?
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Not really.

Suffice to say that I think you have little idea of what C4C was intended to achieve and even less grasp of politics/history.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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.....thats fd up man id go out there and... na never mind he realy didnt get 4500 all he got was a monthly payment for a car he didnt have payments, and a shi...crappy car what a ree ree, bet he rode the short bus, he fails big time
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by clokker
Not really.

Suffice to say that I think you have little idea of what C4C was intended to achieve and even less grasp of politics/history.
Are you saying it worked? Regardless of what you think it was meant to achieve, it did achieve one thing, it wasted millions of dollars by destroying many working cars.

Please enlighten me.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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OK, fine.
Originally Posted by pr0x3n3ta
It doesn't make sense to have people trade in something of value and then for that thing to be wasted....
It's hard to decide where to start...
Clearly, the car referred to by the OP had zero value, evidenced by the fact that he was unable to sell it.
He was asking $4800 and the best- indeed, only- offer he received was a $4500 credit from the government, so what do think he should have done?

One of the basic tenets of the C4C program was to remove inefficient, high polluting cars from the road.
Given this goal, what sense would it make to reward an owner for terminating a car and then turn around and sell it to someone else so they could continue polluting?

As for this bit:
when it could be resold to make money for someone else
Who exactly was going to buy and resell all these used cars?
Who got to keep the profit?

It is just another case of a genius liberal idea to "boost" the economy when in reality, it is a trick to put Americans farther into debt so that we will then have no choice but to submit to the marxist policies of our corrupt congress and it's new puppet.
And this...this is just intellectual mush- pretty much the same rabblerousing, completely nonsensical ranting that Fox News specializes in.

I assume that "liberal" is meant as a derogatory term and liberals are to be held accountable for this poor RX7 being destroyed.
Fact is, the economists who came up with the C4C program are the very same people that the previous Republican administration relied on.
Why then isn't this a "genius conservative idea"?
Why weren't the heads of Detroit's Big Three- Republicans all- screaming in protest?

This is probably not the appropriate area for this discussion, so, after it's moved to the Lounge, you can detail for me what specifically is "Marxist" about "our corrupt Congress and it's new puppet".

That will be interesting.
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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All political debate aside, the fact still remains that a truly beautiful representation of the rotary family got destroyed. The owner did get close to what he was asking, thru the C4C program, for his RX7. For his situation, it might have been just the bump he needed to get into a better position in life. However, this is a perfect example that no matter how hard you work for the things you put into your car, it will never truly be valued the same by anyone else.
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