Romanator

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I'm shure there has to be forum members with V-mount Intercooler setups.

RB_eater

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There's quite a few of us yes but mine isn't on yet so I can only give pictures of the intercooler itself.

TitaniumTT has one, he just uploaded pics in another thread. He's the only one I can't think of from the top of my mind.

Just noticed your in montreal, might see you on the road someday.

Cheers.

wiL87

try searching

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=VMIC
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...highlight=VMIC

i found 2 with pictures

Sindregutt

Here is mine, my radiator got is not that much angled as other ive seen and i can still use the stock hood lock. Everything is made of cheap-*** parts from ebay (since i drift ^^)..

backroad-junkie

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did i get you thinking romanator? lol

Romanator

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yeah you did backroad-junkie, lol

puhpaper

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sick aftermarket oil cooler. D:

TitaniumTT

Ditch the bended couplers and build the pipe the right way. The only time a coupler should really be used is when you need a hump coupler. I used one becuase the FD elbow I bought and proceeded to hack up had the barb on the end making welding a seemless transistion impossible. Not to mention the ebizzle silicone is crap. The blue POS ones I have are getting replaced with real quality hump couplers. I used these for mock up and as you can see, they got burned.

RB_eater

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^post *****.

But yeah couplers absorb vibrations and such. They aren't to replace piping or make bends.

MonkeyMagic

nr2180

I like the coke bottle overflow. Your setup gave me some good ideas and it looks good. Like running the tb elbow down under the ps. I have one question. Did you leave the factory location fill cap on the radiator, or block it off?

clokker

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Although the construction of some of these v-mounts is admirable (TitaniumTT's is a particular favorite), it would seem that the efficacy is compromised without a hood vent to allow freeflow through the heatexchanger.

Am I overthinking this or missing something?

Romanator

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WOW all these pics are very sweet references and sick setups. But I have to admit TitaniumTT knows his **** very well and it shows and so does Sindregutt, you just need less couplers man. Both are very sick setups. RESPECT!

TitaniumTT

Thanks for the compliments guys.
Very rarely can you overthink something in my opinion. More times than not I see people underthing things when they fabricate and it ends up being a headache in the end. I've found that very rarely do people think about taking things apart when they build **** and it leads to 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc revisions

As for the dropvent hood being needed. That I just simply do not know without some actual testing. I can tell you that Howard Coleman measured the exit speed from his intercooler to be ~3-5mph during highway speeds. If the core is slowing down the air that much I would tend to think that the benefit from a flow through the core standpoint would be minimal. What it will do is allow the core to be exposed to more ambient air and not the superheated engine bay air. By creating a vacuum with a dropvent hood it will increase the flow but by how much? I have an Aluminun hood that I plan to drop vent. I also have a steel hood that I plan to use to test the difference between dropvent vs non drop vent. I was told by a VERY repuatable turbo builder that becuase the exit speeds of the intercooler are so low all you really need to is remove the weatherstripping at the back of the hood to allow better circulation of air and all will be well. Keep in mind that BlueTII has a very similar setup with a stock AL hood and his IAT are fine.

Without any testing and actual facts, all we are doing is pourin opinions onto webpages. My opinion is a dropvent & vented hood will help, but not make any dramatic differences unless under extreme condidtions.

Tofuman FC3S

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The back of the hood would be a high presure area.

Riz.

got_boost

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hey, i remember seeing your name on the clubRXquebec forum, but i quit this thing too much b.s going on there.

maybe we should meet, where in Qc are you ??
im in Laval, and im finally getting back the FC next week end from a new custom downpipe, all it needs now is a SAAQ inspection.

we should do a cruise or go drink an orange juice at julep me,you and romanator !!!



Bruno

MonkeyMagic

That cap has been welded shut. It has been relocated to the surge can

nunchuckgun

coke bottle ftw! question on the coke bottle motor i see how your radiator is really low is there still a fan on that thing?

Turbo23

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Just some personal info...I dont have a vmic, my IC is set back and up next to the radiator. I have 0 problems with water cooling. Oil cooling, well still running a stock cooler, which though isnt bad, isnt up for road racing temps. Anyway, this is about hood venting. The difference between a non-vented, and vented I beleive is a great difference. Removing weather stripping from my experience didnt do squat. I have RE-Amemiya louvers on a NA hood, and my temps went from awesome to no need to look at the gauge good (ok, I still monitor, but I dont worry about my water temps) My underhood temps with my t2 were hot, vented my engine bay was ambient temps, no baking, which is good for overall cooling. So for a VMIC, it should be a necessaity no matter what! If you have the money or time to do a vmic, you can afford or make a hood

Sindregutt

TitaniumTT i love your setup and i would really like to get my hands on an intercooler with the inlet/outlet pointing the right direction and such. You do it cleean! im just throwing bits and pieces together to get something to work (even though i haate silicon bends :S) One of the reason i havnt made more custom parts is that i need to convince myself that i wont wreck more cars in competitions!

As for the performance of a Vmic vs Fmic(Tmic). I got dead steady watertemp at thermostat temp, inlet temp is a few centigrades over outdoor temp and dual oilcoolers give me 80C steady!
Fmic gives good inlet temp but i had big issues with watertemp with the frontbumper installed(helped alot to cut a big hole though).

Disanvantage with Vmic is insane heatsoak when im in the lineup before a drift run fex..

Sindre

TitaniumTT

Yeah &??????? Did I say it would let the superheated engine bay air out? I said it would improve circulation. By forcing air in there from the back and from the front........... where do you think it will go?

The way I'm planning on ducting the hood for the VMIC will do nothing for underhood temps. I plan to duct it and seal it to the intercooler. This will allow one duct to do one job, pull air through the core. I will add other ducts on the hood to allow engine bay heat out, think PanSpeed hood

TitaniumTT

Thanks. Lot's of time planning and more time fabbing one off pieces. In hindsight I should've built the intercooler from a core but instead I had that intercooler custom made. While I have more than enough faith in the piece, I would NEVER under ANY circumstances do business with that company again. I gave serious thought to selling that intercooler just so I wouldn't have it on my car. You wanna buy?

MonkeyMagic

Yes, I have an e-fan on the bottom. I would over heat at idle without it. It is REALLY close to the ground. I have scrapped it a few times.

backroad-junkie

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just thought id share mine OP since i told you I was doing it. I used my old rad for the fitment and i plan on putting a splitter and a little more ducting in there when we get the motor back in there and run it and adjust it. Its made out of 16ga galvanized sheet and rubber covers on the intercooler mounts and is easily removable.

Romanator

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Hey backroad-junkie your setup is looking good. Props