Almost got into another accident because of the damn stock seat belts >_<
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Almost got into another accident because of the damn stock seat belts >_<
I have the automatic seat belts and for some reason, every once and awhile they just random decide to lock up on me when I need to change lanes.
I think im about ready to just rip them out and get some 4point harness's with bucket seats
I think im about ready to just rip them out and get some 4point harness's with bucket seats
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http://www.autorecalls.us/aut-04/rec...x-7/54809.html
life time warranty on those belts. go get em replaced.
if the dealer says no then take it up with mazda, they will make it happen.
life time warranty on those belts. go get em replaced.
if the dealer says no then take it up with mazda, they will make it happen.
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http://www.autorecalls.us/aut-04/rec...x-7/54809.html
life time warranty on those belts. go get em replaced.
if the dealer says no then take it up with mazda, they will make it happen.
life time warranty on those belts. go get em replaced.
if the dealer says no then take it up with mazda, they will make it happen.
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See if you can get the dealer to pay for your harnesses....
"Look, you can buy this Takata once, or you can see me every 2 years ....FOREVER..."
Who knows maybe they'll take you up on it
"Look, you can buy this Takata once, or you can see me every 2 years ....FOREVER..."
Who knows maybe they'll take you up on it
The only thing I liked about those worthless belts was the fact that it sat down low behind the seat and didn't rub or bother my neck. Sometimes my S4 belts rub my neck and it bothers me. I need one of those little rub protectors for the belt. I like the Takata idea sharingan 19, except Mazda reimburses the dealership so they don't have to pay for anything.
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Well i just got back from the dealership and there were a little bit more helpful. Now they did say there was a recall for my fc... but now they are saying that the warranty ended 10 years ago.
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trust me, i went through the same garbage. go to edmunds and print it out. there is a bunch of links in the faq section as well.
might have wanted to check that first, just fyi
tell them to **** themselves and fix the *******, or a lawsuit will be filed, see how fast they jump
Lloyd
might have wanted to check that first, just fyi
tell them to **** themselves and fix the *******, or a lawsuit will be filed, see how fast they jump
Lloyd
Just an FYI, a 4 point can be dangerous if you don't have a cage to keep the chassis rigid in a wreck.
From another forum I am on.
From another forum I am on.
Looking through the members cars here I have seen alot of people with bad installs of mulit-point harnesses so I decided to go get a little info for you all to maybe save some people the trouble of learning the hard way.
Harnesses have their own drawbacks. First are roll-over concerns. You should NEVER, EVER use any 4, 5, or 6-point harness in your vehicle without a roll bar. In the event of a rollover a multi-point harness will hold your body upright as the roof collapses on your head. At a minimum you should use a good 4-point roll-cage to help prevent this from happening. The stock 3-point harness, however, does not suffer from this problem. During a rollover accident it will allow your body to move downards with the roof in most cases, helping to prevent crippling neck and spinal injuries.
Secondly multi-point harnesses must be installed correctly in order to be effective. The shoulder harnesses should be attached no lower than six-inches below the shoulder line, and should be at no more than a 45-degree angle from the top of the shoulder to the mounting point. Ideally the belt should be mounted evenly with the top of the shoulder line. Additionally you want some length of seat-belt material between you and the mounting point for adjustability and proper effectiveness. Too much material though can cause other problems.
There are two reasons for these stipulations. First, seatbelts by design are intended to stretch in an impact. This allows your body to slow down gradually in a collision. Too much material between the mounting point can cause an excessive amount of slack after they stretch, allowing your body to escape from the belts. When belts are mounted to the rear seat area of the vehicle, the large amount of material between the mount point and the driver can suffer from this problem. This could allow the body to come into contact with interior parts of the car, like the steering wheel or dash board, or even dislodge completely from the belt.
Secondly by making sure the belts are even with or slightly below the shoulder line ensures proper effectiveness. If the belts are mounted too low they can cause spinal compression injuries in a frontal crash. As the body moves forward the belts pull downward on the shoulders, compressing the spine. This can cause compression fractures in the vertebrae, herniated disks, or even break the spine.
Harnesses have their own drawbacks. First are roll-over concerns. You should NEVER, EVER use any 4, 5, or 6-point harness in your vehicle without a roll bar. In the event of a rollover a multi-point harness will hold your body upright as the roof collapses on your head. At a minimum you should use a good 4-point roll-cage to help prevent this from happening. The stock 3-point harness, however, does not suffer from this problem. During a rollover accident it will allow your body to move downards with the roof in most cases, helping to prevent crippling neck and spinal injuries.
Secondly multi-point harnesses must be installed correctly in order to be effective. The shoulder harnesses should be attached no lower than six-inches below the shoulder line, and should be at no more than a 45-degree angle from the top of the shoulder to the mounting point. Ideally the belt should be mounted evenly with the top of the shoulder line. Additionally you want some length of seat-belt material between you and the mounting point for adjustability and proper effectiveness. Too much material though can cause other problems.
There are two reasons for these stipulations. First, seatbelts by design are intended to stretch in an impact. This allows your body to slow down gradually in a collision. Too much material between the mounting point can cause an excessive amount of slack after they stretch, allowing your body to escape from the belts. When belts are mounted to the rear seat area of the vehicle, the large amount of material between the mount point and the driver can suffer from this problem. This could allow the body to come into contact with interior parts of the car, like the steering wheel or dash board, or even dislodge completely from the belt.
Secondly by making sure the belts are even with or slightly below the shoulder line ensures proper effectiveness. If the belts are mounted too low they can cause spinal compression injuries in a frontal crash. As the body moves forward the belts pull downward on the shoulders, compressing the spine. This can cause compression fractures in the vertebrae, herniated disks, or even break the spine.
dealerships are retarded. never working for one again.
you can print out this then ask where it says it expires when it clearly states LIFETIME. other than that +1 to a lawsuit against that dealership
you can print out this then ask where it says it expires when it clearly states LIFETIME. other than that +1 to a lawsuit against that dealership
Recall Date:
SEP 16, 1996
Model Affected:
1990 MAZDA RX7
Summary:
THE RAIL OF THE AUTOMATIC SHOULDER BELT CAN WEAR SUFFICIENTLY SUCH THAT THE CABLE WHICH RETRACTS THE BUCKLE ASSEMBLY WILL BECOME JAMMED IN THE RAIL RENDERING THE SHOULDER BELT INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
IN THE EVENT OF A VEHICLE COLLISION, THE OCCUPANT WOULD NOT BE ADEQUATELY RESTRAINED INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE INOPERATIVE SHOULDER BELTS. MAZDA HAS EXTENDED THE WARRANTY COVERAGE ON THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER AUTOMATIC SHOULDER BELT RAIL AND MOTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE.
Potential Units Affected:
17800
Notes:
MAZDA (NORTH AMERICA),INC
SEP 16, 1996
Model Affected:
1990 MAZDA RX7
Summary:
THE RAIL OF THE AUTOMATIC SHOULDER BELT CAN WEAR SUFFICIENTLY SUCH THAT THE CABLE WHICH RETRACTS THE BUCKLE ASSEMBLY WILL BECOME JAMMED IN THE RAIL RENDERING THE SHOULDER BELT INOPERATIVE.
Consequence:
IN THE EVENT OF A VEHICLE COLLISION, THE OCCUPANT WOULD NOT BE ADEQUATELY RESTRAINED INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE INOPERATIVE SHOULDER BELTS. MAZDA HAS EXTENDED THE WARRANTY COVERAGE ON THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER AUTOMATIC SHOULDER BELT RAIL AND MOTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE.
Potential Units Affected:
17800
Notes:
MAZDA (NORTH AMERICA),INC
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So i should print this out: http://www.edmunds.com/car-maintenan...50&type=recall and tell them about this.
Also, if they tell me no again, should I get a written statement from them telling me why they are declining the recall?
Also, if they tell me no again, should I get a written statement from them telling me why they are declining the recall?
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From: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
notice please where it says: MAZDA HAS EXTENDED THE WARRANTY COVERAGE ON THE DRIVER AND PASSENGER AUTOMATIC SHOULDER BELT RAIL AND MOTOR FOR THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE.
if the problem is NOT the belt rail or motor, it is NOT part of the recall, and thus NOT covered.
thus if your bad door switch causes the belt to move randomly it is not covered.
mazda is nice though, so it doesn't hurt to ask.
if the problem is NOT the belt rail or motor, it is NOT part of the recall, and thus NOT covered.
thus if your bad door switch causes the belt to move randomly it is not covered.
mazda is nice though, so it doesn't hurt to ask.
