Foam stiffening: who's done it?
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An epoxy resin base expanding foam can be bought at a marine supply store for about $30 for a 2 quart, 2 part system. 2 gallons is about $80. The marine grade stuff expands to about 40x the volume and is incredibly tough. It's just mixed in a can and poured in.
I don't think that tilting the car forward, as posted above, will have much effect on the expanding foam. It will expand wherever it wants and also where you don't want it. What's important is the bonding of the foam to the frame. If this doesn’t happen, the foam is useless.
Lars
I don't think that tilting the car forward, as posted above, will have much effect on the expanding foam. It will expand wherever it wants and also where you don't want it. What's important is the bonding of the foam to the frame. If this doesn’t happen, the foam is useless.
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Originally posted by larsyoung
What's important is the bonding of the foam to the frame. If this doesn’t happen, the foam is useless.
What's important is the bonding of the foam to the frame. If this doesn’t happen, the foam is useless.
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RarestRX: That is good info. Your buddy that did it brought up a good point on that site. That his springs became much more effective with a stiffer frame. That sounds like something that is very noticeable.
I've always subscribed to the belief if you get sh!+ cheap, you get cheap sh!+. I expected to send a bit to get the right stuff. But from what it sounds like it'll be worth it. Both the initial cost and the effort. I can hardly wait to get all messy doing this.
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I've always subscribed to the belief if you get sh!+ cheap, you get cheap sh!+. I expected to send a bit to get the right stuff. But from what it sounds like it'll be worth it. Both the initial cost and the effort. I can hardly wait to get all messy doing this.
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Yo,
No problem, Jon is hella hardcore. You get a chance to watch his videos? He gets a couple baby drifts on in the parking lot at Candlestick.
Gotta love his garage:
http://www.geocities.com/dorifto/AE8.../17_w_RX-7.htm
Gotta cut and paste I think, it's on GeoShitties.
Have fun!
KS
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No problem, Jon is hella hardcore. You get a chance to watch his videos? He gets a couple baby drifts on in the parking lot at Candlestick.
Gotta love his garage:
http://www.geocities.com/dorifto/AE8.../17_w_RX-7.htm
Gotta cut and paste I think, it's on GeoShitties.
Have fun!
KS
1989 GTUs "Just got my OMP shift ****!"
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Ive got an idea for the wires!!!!
If your afraid of entombing your harness, or other wires, just place a flexible tube in the channel PRIOR to foaming it.
Then after its cured, cut the tubes flush with the foam.
when you want to run more wires, just use a hoat hanger or fish tape to run it through the tube.
put tubes all over the place in your car where ever you want to run wires without having to pry back seats or other parts.
I did it without foaming my car to run speaker and power wires for car audio.
People thought i was nuts for doing the extra work, but all those cars now can have the wiring replaced in minutes compared to the hour+ it would take to upgrade/replace wires.
sounds good enought to use in foamed areas...
Then after its cured, cut the tubes flush with the foam.
when you want to run more wires, just use a hoat hanger or fish tape to run it through the tube.
put tubes all over the place in your car where ever you want to run wires without having to pry back seats or other parts.
I did it without foaming my car to run speaker and power wires for car audio.
People thought i was nuts for doing the extra work, but all those cars now can have the wiring replaced in minutes compared to the hour+ it would take to upgrade/replace wires.
sounds good enought to use in foamed areas...
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Wicks sells that stuff. I have used it before on a Formula SAE car. Here is the link http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=67
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Originally Posted by 88FC3S
Wicks sells that stuff. I have used it before on a Formula SAE car. Here is the link http://www.wicksaircraft.com/showPage.phtml?pagenum=67
If you are going to do it use stuff that is denser and will make a difference.
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Originally Posted by rx7_ragtop
Hmmm... I missed this one before. I wonder how much this would help a 'vert?
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its not day and night, but with the top down you do feel a small difference going over bumps and potholes.
so is there a decision on what brand is effective and where to buy it? i would definitly concider doing it to my 91 coupe just to make things a little bit better, i kinda feel that the chasis is a little loose for my taste, it doesnt inspire confidence like in stiffer cars.
so is there a decision on what brand is effective and where to buy it? i would definitly concider doing it to my 91 coupe just to make things a little bit better, i kinda feel that the chasis is a little loose for my taste, it doesnt inspire confidence like in stiffer cars.
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https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/those-think-i-dont-make-mistakes-those-know-better-foaming-frame-329353/
I don't know if that'll work but you guys should check out icemark's thread on this. It is informative and shows what he did with good results
I don't know if that'll work but you guys should check out icemark's thread on this. It is informative and shows what he did with good results
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I'd like to hear more about this... is there any access point to put this stuff in the B pillars or would it need to be drilled? I haven't pulled off the plastic cover that's on that pillar yet in my parts car...
And does anyone have a specific site to get this stuff from or some advice on finding it... I mean, I live in LA I'm sure there's a few places around here to pick it up.
--Gary
And does anyone have a specific site to get this stuff from or some advice on finding it... I mean, I live in LA I'm sure there's a few places around here to pick it up.
--Gary
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Originally Posted by Icemark
Yeah I have done it in the running board frames on all my RX-7s.
Night and day difference, worth every penny of the $50 to do it.
Hell you could even do it for cheaper than that by buying the stuff in the can at Home depot. Those cans are only $4 a piece and you would only need 3 or so per side rail.
Night and day difference, worth every penny of the $50 to do it.
Hell you could even do it for cheaper than that by buying the stuff in the can at Home depot. Those cans are only $4 a piece and you would only need 3 or so per side rail.
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Originally Posted by inflatablepets
I hate to argue your point, but the expanding foam will not work properly. It does shrink a bit over time and causes rattles.
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Originally Posted by koukifc3s
so what can we use?