In the Winter of 2003 I'm going to be contacting a few rotary building companies, including Racing Beat, Mazdatrix, and SDJ Motorsports (and probably others) and "contracting" them to build me the best combination of ultra-high power and reliability (for a few years hopefully), and of course a little bit of street drivability (has to have some power down low).. with no limit on the expense of the whole system.

Now, I'm pretty sure I'm going to do it to a 20B, because.. well... because..

I need your guyses help to tell me what sort of things I should be looking into. Mild street port, big street port, bridge port, peripheral port (yeah!!!), whatever. What type of apex seals (3-piece, 2-piece, 1-piece (do they make these?), carbon, steel, ceramic, etc.. any aftermarket forged internals that might exist, what turbo to slap onto it, what fuel system, what computer, I mean.. we're building a whole car here.

 

Wow.. with that spec you have "no limit on expense..", why not get a McLaren F1 and trash the V12 engine. Then stuff a custom build 6 rotor 6 turbo rotory engine. You might be able to register the car as custom specialty vehicle so that you can drive it on the street and blow everybody else on the road hehehe

 

anyhow... in an FC

 

well.... that sounds like..............

 

Hey, i got the same pipe dream going, only i want to do a BP 13BT Midget....

 

yet another ignorant comment.. would anyone with more than two brain cells care to make any worthwile suggestions, or should I take this to another forum?

 

after your posts in the lounge i wouldn't be tossing around the word ignorant if i was you

 

care to elaborate on that, or do you just have nothing to do but slander people all day?

Honestly, nothing in this thread that you've written has been of ANY value yet, I'm still waiting, hoping for some hint of intelligence to come through, but I won't hold my breath.

 

Actually, I don't care to elaborate because you wouldn't be able to get over your pride long enough to realize that you are completely wasting anyone's time who clicked on this thread. Also, I don't say things like this to just anyone, I save it for rare occasions when I come across people like you and yzf-r1.

 

you need to decide what you are going to use the car for, how much hp you need, how long you need it to last, are you trying to make it pass smog? etc etc.
it sounds like you know some of these....

mike

 

i hope your rich barwick. abel contracts rb to build all his motors, they charge 50 grand per motor. if you don't have a budget build a tri-turbo pp 20b. get all aluminum housings, but don't just get the crappy rb cast aluminum side housings. get all your housings custom machined from heat treated billet aluminum, just like top fuel dragsters. get all the internals coated w/ anti heat and friction coatings. get apex seals made of ultra compressed graphite, so they'll be practically as hard as diamond, and when they do fracture they'll crumble as you compromise the molecular bonds. run a motec m880 and a sequential 6 speed tranny.

 

Doesn't the stock 20B E-shaft have flex problems with boost above 12PSI?

The "HITMAN"s site had some info on it...
http://www.hitman.hm/engine.htm

 

Show car, drag car, road race car, street car, what? They are all different.

BTW, you should probably put some type of cost cap on the project, as an all-out 20B RX-7 is going to cost upwards of $250,000 if everything is contracted out. Sorry, but I don't even forsee the great Mr. Akimoto getting a car loan for that kind of cash.

No, Pettit, PFS, and others are running 20B-REW's at 15psig with no problem.

 

i heard abel was having e-shaft problems w/ his 3 rotor?

 

he is making a lot more than 15psi.

mike

 

Right now yeah money is an issue, BUT when I do this project, money will not be an issue, and this engine is going to be something people talk about.

Street car - like it to last at least like 20,000 miles.
Reproducable - While I'm having one rebuilt after it blew, I'd like to still drive my car (that means two engines)
Emissions? Are you kidding? If I have to, I'll buy a house in another state that DOESN'T have emissions, just so I can register it there. Like I said, money will not be an issue.
What kind of horsepower can be done with these in mind?

 

Maybe you are legit but you sound a bit like...oh what was that guys name....excelr8. His girlfriend had 500k in her purse at all times and was going to pay for everything yet he tried to get me to finance the sale of my 20b fd to him. Maybe he felt uncomfortable taking her money, I know I would (yeah right!).

If you are serious, do a search as the questions you ask have been answered numerous times. The hardest thing about doing one of these projects is the research. The actual work is simply mechanics. Getting everything work together, properly requires a lot of thought. If someone where to ask me what to do, I would point them in the right direction but building one of these cars is very personal.

 

I didnt know mr. akimoto used to hang out here too.i remember when he used to hang out on the supra forums.if u read this mr. akimoto tell mrs. bambie to quit calling me,and tell ur midget no he cant work 4 me

 

how much do you want? you could probably do 700-800 with a turbo, 450 with peripheral port na

mike

 

700-800 yeah I could live with that. I'm kinda second guessing my choice between FC or FD though.. still not sure which. FC has a lot of extra room in front of the engine.

The story is, right now my business is only bringing in just short of a grand a month. Within the next 6 months I'll be bringing in a few grand, and 2 or 3 years down the road, 50 or 60 grand a month is what I'm looking at. That's why money won't be an issue. I know it sounds like a bunch of bull, but if you really need to, treat it like a "theoretical" buildup with unlimited money. Or imagine I make $60,000 a year and rotor housings cost $1.25

 

i dont really care about your finances, unless you want to give me some, its not really any of my (our?) buisness unless you want to make it so.
you just need to know what you are using the car for...

mike

 

barwick please oh please hook up me w/ that job. wtf are you gonna do to make so much $$$? anyway just use my setup run methanol and your good for 1800rwhp. tone it done and use gas on the street and you'll still have 1000whp cruising on the street.

 

and what is your setup?

 

OK, it's a street car. That means no PP. A BP would be bearable.

20,000 miles = 80,000 drag races, which means that a high-boost drag race setup is totally out of the question.

So, we are left with a nice, bulletproof, road race setup. Rather than try and piece together some frankenstein motor based on dubious opinions on this forum, simply drop off the car at Downing Atlanta or Mandeville Auto Tech, and tell them what you want. A few months and about $250,000 later you will have a very nice FC.

BTW, good luck with your network marketing.

 

Personally this sounds like someone counting thier chickens before they have hatched.