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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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3-rotar in an FC

Is is possible to put a 3-rotar in an FC? I've seen it done on FDs before with ease.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Yeah, its not as hard as it used to be. FC3S.org makes mounts for the engine so that cutting the firewall, and fabbing a subframe isn't necessary. The hardest part would be the electronics, sensors, etc.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Its actually easier to install in an FC... To me its not worth the money that you spend vs. hp & weight gain you get in return
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Plus i hear that you also loose handling.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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yeah u mess up the balance.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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funny that people who say that , dont have one , and sometimes have never driven one
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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why even bother answering his question? tell his *** to search. Newbs with one 1 stupid post should really be shown the light or the boot. I sure wish i was a mod sometimes. i'd be the evil sadistic mod. anyway YES there are a few 3 rotOr fc's out there. If you want to do it, get an FC and then have about 20 grand lying around for parts and stuff. also a lot of custom work is required. and i'm willing to bet that if you can't spell rotor you won't be able to do the work.

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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dorifc3s
yeah u mess up the balance.

umm what balance?
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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umm what balance?
the near 50/50 weight
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spike10h
Is is possible to put a 3-rotar in an FC?
With enough resources, you can put just about anything in an FC, or any other car.

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I've seen it done on FDs before with ease.
You may have seen an FD with a 20B, but I can assure you that it was not done "with ease".

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Plus i hear that you also loose handling.
Not necessarily. Adding a 20B engine to an FC is a custom conversion, which means that everybody is going to use a different method. Some conversions will handle better than others.

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yeah u mess up the balance.
That is also not necessarily true, and it's one of those many misconceptions floating around the internet. Once again, it depends on how the conversion is performed.

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i'd be the evil sadistic mod.
Now that is a goal that I can relate to. However, you would quickly find that the noobs are not much of a bother. It's the Jihad salesmen and their fanatic followers who usually require the most Evil attention.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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I'd love to know who started that upsetting the balance **** so that I could have them shot... When you put a fat friend in the passenger seat you just upset the balance...

Hrm lets see, No A/C pump, No condenser, No power steering pump, No huge bulky brackets that mount them, No Air pump, No huge chunk of stock twin turbo/cast iron ****, frp fenders, bumper and wet carbon hood... I think that more than makes up for the weight of the extra rotor/rotor housing and fat intermediate plate... drop 100+lbs of **** and add 50lbs of 3 rotor = acceptable weight gain..
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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Plus if you had the resources you could relocate the battery, drop the stock fuel tank, and mount a fuel cell in an appropriate place as to make the balancing near perfect. Providing you have the weight and balance equipment.

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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You could also lower the 20b's mounting point several inches, lowering the cg of the car and also move it back far enough to maintain the 'mid-engine' layout for that 'perfect balance'.
A dry sump-system helps with that
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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as stated before, MOST POEPLE WHO GIVE SUCH COMMENTS HAVE NEVER DRIVEN OR OWNED ONE, thus do not qualify to give comments
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sillbeer
Plus if you had the resources you could relocate the battery, drop the stock fuel tank, and mount a fuel cell in an appropriate place as to make the balancing near perfect. Providing you have the weight and balance equipment.

-Destin
Good call.. I forgot about the two Optimas in my trunk...
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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To answer a few questions...

The original question: Is it possible? Yes. See www.cris.com/~Asam/20B.html

Mess up the balance - After running down to the local grain elevator and weighing the car on all four wheels, then just on the front, then just on the back: 51% front and 49% back. Close enough to 50/50 for me. Truth in advertising: The battery is now in the trunk (the semi-circular space under the carpeting). I have a rollbar, and there is a whole roll of Dynomat under the carpeting in the passenger compartment. Without those, I _might_ be at 52/48.

Mess up the handling - The car handles superbly. Truth in advertising: I have Ground Control adjustable coilovers, Tokico Illuminas, along with 8.5-inch-wide wheels in front and 10-inch-wide wheels in the back. Without those, the car handles OK, but the excessive torque gives a whole new meaning to "throttle oversteer", if you really try to use all that power.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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I spoke to "Koby" at the Sevenstock about this issue. He agreed that the 20B transplant into an FC (86-91) is a much better option than the FD (92-02) as the cars balance isn't in question with the FC installation.

So thats straight form the man himself.
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