20B.. to buy or build?
20B.. to buy or build?
Gents,
Please pardon my ignorance, I am a noob with the 20B, but if you would so kind to entertain my question it would be much appreciated.
I am starting down the 20B path...
I have been pricing imported 20Bs lately and they are upwards of $6K for the later series, and as with any performance oriented venture the engine will have to be built so I am looking at another $4K for rebuilding, for a total of $10K.
Would it not be cheaper/better for me just to buy all the parts new and piece things together (for the exception of the eccentric shaft). I have an earlier series (JCESE) eccentric shaft, are there any real differences between shafts of different series? If not, would it make more sense for me to purchase new; rotors, rotor housings, side housings, and center housing? Or is it not as straight forward as I am making it sound, am i missing something? A rough calculation puts me around the $10K mark for all new parts.
So I have outlined two different approaches which one would your recommend and why?
Thank you for your time.
V/R,
Steven
Please pardon my ignorance, I am a noob with the 20B, but if you would so kind to entertain my question it would be much appreciated.
I am starting down the 20B path...
I have been pricing imported 20Bs lately and they are upwards of $6K for the later series, and as with any performance oriented venture the engine will have to be built so I am looking at another $4K for rebuilding, for a total of $10K.
Would it not be cheaper/better for me just to buy all the parts new and piece things together (for the exception of the eccentric shaft). I have an earlier series (JCESE) eccentric shaft, are there any real differences between shafts of different series? If not, would it make more sense for me to purchase new; rotors, rotor housings, side housings, and center housing? Or is it not as straight forward as I am making it sound, am i missing something? A rough calculation puts me around the $10K mark for all new parts.
So I have outlined two different approaches which one would your recommend and why?
Thank you for your time.
V/R,
Steven
Im no expert but im in the same boat as you trying to build a 20b. And im leaning towards buying each part separately. My list is new rotor housings, chromoly eshaft, turbo smart center plate, projay upper/lower inatke and piece together everything else.
I think it depends on your application. I went with a late c code block that was running perfect. Block was stripped, ports touched up, all new seals, 5 pinned and its perfect. My car is a street car and I felt I wanted a block the way mazda built it.
It all comes down to personel preference, I have seen great motors that have been peiced together and there running awesome!
But to me you cant beat an original running block and starting from there.....
It all comes down to personel preference, I have seen great motors that have been peiced together and there running awesome!
But to me you cant beat an original running block and starting from there.....
^ As he says, it depends on application. For moderate power levels, it is reasonable to buy a used engine and 'freshen' it.
If you want very high power (say 600+ whp or so), it is maybe a better idea to use all new parts. I am not sure that the thick center iron is available from Mazda anymore though?
Another, and IMO the best option, is to buy a 3 rotor 'kit' from one of the performance shops such as kiwi-re. This is a little bit more expensive, but not extremely so, and you will have all new parts that were designed with the performance enthusiast application in mind.
If you want very high power (say 600+ whp or so), it is maybe a better idea to use all new parts. I am not sure that the thick center iron is available from Mazda anymore though?
Another, and IMO the best option, is to buy a 3 rotor 'kit' from one of the performance shops such as kiwi-re. This is a little bit more expensive, but not extremely so, and you will have all new parts that were designed with the performance enthusiast application in mind.
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