Yaw Power
11-23-03, 06:21 PM
#26
Thanks Carl and Sterling.
FWIW I had a trick Rx-3 carb I had a local shop massage and I did some work on it too. Ended up putting a custom made 1" thick high temp plastic spacer inbetween the manifold and carb. Lengthened intake tract, gave some more low end grunt and kept heat away from carb.
Just sharing. Thanks for the quick replies Carl and Sterling. I think you have many customers wanting your products.
Brad
FWIW I had a trick Rx-3 carb I had a local shop massage and I did some work on it too. Ended up putting a custom made 1" thick high temp plastic spacer inbetween the manifold and carb. Lengthened intake tract, gave some more low end grunt and kept heat away from carb.
Just sharing. Thanks for the quick replies Carl and Sterling. I think you have many customers wanting your products.
Brad
11-23-03, 09:39 PM
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Rotary Enthusiast
Hey guys is this going to be a 'bash Paul Yaw' thread?
I have used his carburetors for years when I was running in the Pro7 circuit, when it was the happening car class in Nor Cal. Paul was always there when I needed to make adjustments to the carburetor to get the most out of it on the track I was running. He even called me on the phone when he came up with some more power gains.
You have to understand that a lot of Rx-7 owners are 'Needy', don't take that the wrong way, cause so am I. We all have to learn about the do's and don't of our Rx-7 because it is different than anything else out there. And nobody in the automobile repair world understands them, little alone wanting to work on them.
I know all good shops like Yaw Power and Rob at Pineapple Racing has this cult following of people that ask tons of questions and never spend a dime. How do you think somebody is going to make a living if the spend all their time on the phone/email answering the stupidest of questions. This is their full time job, not a hobby in their garage.
I saw Paul at SevenStock this year and he is focused on the Rx-8 performance parts. I think that he earned the rotary engine worlds respect. I asked about the Rx-7 carburetors and he was planning to phase that part of his business out. BUT he thought about writing a book on the Nikki Carburetor, I thought -what a great idea, then I thought how people would want to rip him off buy selling hack copies of it.
SO we can encourage Paul to write the book or bash him, so he can tell all to **** OFF.
John
I have used his carburetors for years when I was running in the Pro7 circuit, when it was the happening car class in Nor Cal. Paul was always there when I needed to make adjustments to the carburetor to get the most out of it on the track I was running. He even called me on the phone when he came up with some more power gains.
You have to understand that a lot of Rx-7 owners are 'Needy', don't take that the wrong way, cause so am I. We all have to learn about the do's and don't of our Rx-7 because it is different than anything else out there. And nobody in the automobile repair world understands them, little alone wanting to work on them.
I know all good shops like Yaw Power and Rob at Pineapple Racing has this cult following of people that ask tons of questions and never spend a dime. How do you think somebody is going to make a living if the spend all their time on the phone/email answering the stupidest of questions. This is their full time job, not a hobby in their garage.
I saw Paul at SevenStock this year and he is focused on the Rx-8 performance parts. I think that he earned the rotary engine worlds respect. I asked about the Rx-7 carburetors and he was planning to phase that part of his business out. BUT he thought about writing a book on the Nikki Carburetor, I thought -what a great idea, then I thought how people would want to rip him off buy selling hack copies of it.
SO we can encourage Paul to write the book or bash him, so he can tell all to **** OFF.
John
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11-24-03, 04:02 AM
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BUT STEAROUSLY......
so, if i had. say a half bridge 12a, would your carb offer me close to the power of a 45mm weber, but with great driveability????? inquiring minds want to know? im sure it will be a good carb. hell, your little ap mod made my day a few years ago..... a docile 1/2 bridgey would be nice... are you modding the intake mannys aswell? or is that left up to the indevidual??
so, if i had. say a half bridge 12a, would your carb offer me close to the power of a 45mm weber, but with great driveability????? inquiring minds want to know? im sure it will be a good carb. hell, your little ap mod made my day a few years ago..... a docile 1/2 bridgey would be nice... are you modding the intake mannys aswell? or is that left up to the indevidual??
11-24-03, 07:18 AM
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Sterling, (or Carl),
I think you should try and get back in touch with Yaw. He did some pretty amazing things with his carbs to balance flow rate and velocity in order to make the most of his carbs, and if he's "phasing out" his carb line, maybe he can pass a few tricks down to you. I mean, if he's not going to be making any more money off of them, then he won't be *losing* any money off of them. Hell, you could even offer him a small % if his ideas are truly helpful. I don't doubt that you guys are doing awesome things with the Nikki, I just think that you two shouldn't have to "reinvent the racing wheel" when paul's already done so much research. You could take some of what he's done and adapt it to your carbs.
Just see if you can talk to him. I understand that if he's still making racing carbs it will cost him money to give away secrets, but if he's not gonna make them anymore, he won't be losing out. He'll just be making sure that nobody has to re-make his mistakes, and that everyone's running "as fast as possible" (as his site says). Besides, if he's going to be catering the Rx8 crowd, those guys have a penny to drop, he doesn't need the small cash carbs are compared to Rx8 mods.
Just my thoughts, see you in spring
Jon
I think you should try and get back in touch with Yaw. He did some pretty amazing things with his carbs to balance flow rate and velocity in order to make the most of his carbs, and if he's "phasing out" his carb line, maybe he can pass a few tricks down to you. I mean, if he's not going to be making any more money off of them, then he won't be *losing* any money off of them. Hell, you could even offer him a small % if his ideas are truly helpful. I don't doubt that you guys are doing awesome things with the Nikki, I just think that you two shouldn't have to "reinvent the racing wheel" when paul's already done so much research. You could take some of what he's done and adapt it to your carbs.
Just see if you can talk to him. I understand that if he's still making racing carbs it will cost him money to give away secrets, but if he's not gonna make them anymore, he won't be losing out. He'll just be making sure that nobody has to re-make his mistakes, and that everyone's running "as fast as possible" (as his site says). Besides, if he's going to be catering the Rx8 crowd, those guys have a penny to drop, he doesn't need the small cash carbs are compared to Rx8 mods.
Just my thoughts, see you in spring
Jon
11-24-03, 08:16 AM
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boosted- Carl is working on carbs specifically for ported applications. Manifold porting is being concidered.
Jon-
We already do everything Yaw did to his carb and more.
I honestly feel that Yaw did what was "good enough" to make his carbs the best modded Nikkis around...not like he had anyone elses work to compare it to.
Besides, Carl and I still scratch our heads when pondering just how the hell Yaw ever made any money doing carbs!
...We don't think he really did. So if "good enough" was kicking everyones *** already, why should he have taken it further?
Right now Yaws carbs are the ones to beat. And we're going to do that.
Also, aour last email conversation I don't think he really just wants to "hand over" all his notes. He took years to learn through experience. I've only been into carbs for two years!
...But I will say it's not rocket science, just science.
One thing's for sure; if he is actually going to write a book like rhinor61 suggests he's contemplating, I sure want to buy that book!
Jon-
We already do everything Yaw did to his carb and more.
I honestly feel that Yaw did what was "good enough" to make his carbs the best modded Nikkis around...not like he had anyone elses work to compare it to.
Besides, Carl and I still scratch our heads when pondering just how the hell Yaw ever made any money doing carbs!
...We don't think he really did. So if "good enough" was kicking everyones *** already, why should he have taken it further?
Right now Yaws carbs are the ones to beat. And we're going to do that.
Also, aour last email conversation I don't think he really just wants to "hand over" all his notes. He took years to learn through experience. I've only been into carbs for two years!
...But I will say it's not rocket science, just science.
One thing's for sure; if he is actually going to write a book like rhinor61 suggests he's contemplating, I sure want to buy that book!
11-24-03, 09:31 AM
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Airflow is my life
John, I would never bash Yaw. He has done alot for the 1st gen crowd and were all grateful. If he gets out of the carb biz (which I could understand, like Sterling said, there aint any $ in it really) I do hope he writes a book. Then you guys can all mod your carbys and we could have a Nikki revival. Truth is, there will still be people who cant/or wont wanna do it themselves and will pay someone else to do it for them. Yes I dont make a dime off of all the people (and you know who you are ) who ask for help and advice. I dont mind, we didnt get into this cause we plan to get rich off of it.
Jake, Im working on a carb for ported engines. Its gonna take a little time to get it sized right. Interested in being a guinea pig for me? Ported manifolds is another side project, so far the flow numbers arent stellar and were going to have to address this. I will offer it as a service when its done, but also offer the info, as labor charges would make it a bit on the expensive side.
Jon, I dont see that happening, but I do hope he writes the Nikki Bible. I think itll sell well and make him $. I would buy a copy too.
) who ask for help and advice. I dont mind, we didnt get into this cause we plan to get rich off of it.Jake, Im working on a carb for ported engines. Its gonna take a little time to get it sized right. Interested in being a guinea pig for me? Ported manifolds is another side project, so far the flow numbers arent stellar and were going to have to address this. I will offer it as a service when its done, but also offer the info, as labor charges would make it a bit on the expensive side.
Jon, I dont see that happening, but I do hope he writes the Nikki Bible. I think itll sell well and make him $. I would buy a copy too.
11-24-03, 11:16 AM
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Yeah, the Nikki bible will probably make him more money in the FB crowd than the Nikkis will from here on in. Most people just want rebuilds, and won't pay 300$ for them.... But also don't want to get into the complexity of doing it on their own since there is no really good Nikki resource.
So he can cater to those people by releasing a book, which they'll buy, and maybe continue to be a reseller for fuel components and kits (cite his website in the book) and bang, he makes a few dollars w/o doing more work, giving him more time to do Rx8 stuff.
Sounds like an all-winning plan for me.
So he can cater to those people by releasing a book, which they'll buy, and maybe continue to be a reseller for fuel components and kits (cite his website in the book) and bang, he makes a few dollars w/o doing more work, giving him more time to do Rx8 stuff.
Sounds like an all-winning plan for me.
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