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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 06:50 AM
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Wire Harness Routing help from 12a guys

Spent a bunch of time cleaning up the engine bay and rewrapping the harness throughout. The problem is, I can't quite remember where the harness runs , specifically, around the brake booster and lines, where the tiedowns are for the wires that go to the carb and alternator (emissions have been deleted), and finally around the front (lights, radiator, oscillator). Simple explanations are good, pics are good, but both would be Tony the Tiger.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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I've got pics at home from when I re-did mine, taken before the engine went back in; I'll post them up this evening.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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please post as many pics as you can. I am in the same shoes. it is easy to disassemble...but when it comes to putting things back, especially electrical....hmmmm we all know the story...
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 10:31 AM
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Without the engine bay is more than I could have ever hoped for. Would it be too much to ask for a pic with the engine in so I can see how the sections that go to the carb and alternator attach (if you have one)?

Let this be lesson to all you oldies. Low post count does not necessarily mean useless posts and no real help.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Without the engine bay is more than I could have ever hoped for. Would it be too much to ask for a pic with the engine in so I can see how the sections that go to the carb and alternator attach (if you have one)?
No problem; I used my digital cam to document tear-down and reassembly. I stipped the bay as completely as I could, for re-painting. the before-and-afters are a source of pride for me.

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Let this be lesson to all you oldies. Low post count does not necessarily mean useless posts and no real help.
I'm an oldie... just not around here. Had this car since '89, body has somewhere around 300k on it that I can be sure of. There's little on it that I haven't had off it at one point or another.

Wish I'd known about this place earlier - - could have dodged a few tough lessons over the years.

Prepare for picture bomb after quitting time here in SoCal.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Without the engine bay is more than I could have ever hoped for. Would it be too much to ask for a pic with the engine in so I can see how the sections that go to the carb and alternator attach (if you have one)?

Let this be lesson to all you oldies. Low post count does not necessarily mean useless posts and no real help.
what year is your car? harness route is different 79-82, 83 and 84-85
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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OK, here's a mix of before and afters: This is my beloved SA22C5, 1980 12A, California emissions build. You should be able to pick out where just about everything is, on these.

Particularly with the snazzy blue electrical tape wrap.

Part 1: Before:











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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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And... after:

AFTER:













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part 3: Engine

ENGINE









In the final pictures, the engine main connector is not yet plugged in. It routes under the oil filter mount, and there'sa soft metal piece that grips the rubber bobbin you see on it, to hold it in place.

Hope this all helps, even though your car is one 'era' newer.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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I'll be the first to say that is the nicest stock engine bay on this forum. I dare anyone to find one nicer.
Thanks in spades, this will be super helpful to me. One more question though:
The ties that hold the harness to the bay, where do you get new ones? I destroyed all of mine getting to the bay.

And, way to make me feel shitty, I thought I was doing a pretty decent job at cleaning everything up, but now I feel like a ******.

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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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I'll be the first to say that is the nicest stock engine bay on this forum. I dare anyone to find one nicer.
Thanks in spades, this will be super helpful to me.
Thanks for the compliments, and you're welcome. Glad I could help.

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One more question though:
The ties that hold the harness to the bay, where do you get new ones? I destroyed all of mine getting to the bay.
That, I'm not sure about; I was able to reuse all of mine (amazing, considering their age!) after cleaning. I'd try an electronics supply house, and see if they have something similar that would fit. If you can't find the snap-in kind, I know screw-down ones exist. you can also get screw-down mounting pads that work with standard wire ties.



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And, way to make me feel shitty, I thought I was doing a pretty decent job at cleaning everything up, but now I feel like a ******.
I'se sorry... I spent the better part of two months tearing down, cleaning, stripping, painting, polishing all the parts, cleaning out all the corrosion. The previous times I'd done engines, I never had the time to do what I wanted, because I had to get it done to drive it. The last time, I had another car I could drive, and vowed to take my time & do it like I'd always wanted to. Took a very long time.

If it's any consolation, it's kind of dusty now...
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yeah, I kinda had big hopes for mine but my landlord got foreclosed on and so I'm getting evicted and need to get the car outta the garage and onto at least a flatbed to move, if not moving under its own steam. Rebuild got kinda shot down so I figure if I get the harness good enough that'll be a good place to start for later on. Baby steps to rotary perfection.
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Old Jun 27, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Absolutely.

Oh, and that fancy gold paint for the bolts and details turned out to be a terrible idea... engine heat made it look like soap after a couple months, lost all it's gloss.

I've been slowly redoing parts with a blue clearcoat laquer instead. Stands the heat a lot better.
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DD - Holy **** that is one SPANKING engine compartment man!! WELL DONE - love the gold anodized effect - and keeping the engine color simple and understated really makes everything else pop nicely!! Even the cross member and steering box... your a brave man to paint the exhaust shield blue!! But the details really take your breath away - thanks for the detailed pics - obviously a labor of love - and believe me, this is from someone who has gone over my engine comp with a TOOTH brush!
Sorry to jack the thread glewsRX!! pics just stopped me cold -
BUT you can buy a lot of those wire ties at blackdragonauto.com at about 50 cents ea.
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Absolutely outstanding refurbishing/restoration work on your engine bay. Keep up the great work.

My autobody paint supplier carries wide variety of clips, ties, connectors, plugs, etc..
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Old Jun 30, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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I can't seem to locate those clips in the bda catalog. Are they listed or are do you just ask for them?
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divin: thats excellent work! hope you bring it to sevenstock

everyone else: you can still buy a lot of those clips from mazda, although it'll add up to decent money ($14 zip ties anyone?) option 2 is to go junkyarding, they pretty much use the same clips up into the 90's.... so any mazda is good for em
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http://www.blackdragonauto.com/ICATA...l.aspx?Page=18
front bumper item 12 is one type - this is OEM

http://www.blackdragonauto.com/ICATA...l.aspx?Page=80
Item 9 on 79-85 battery components - same clip I think - OEM

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Old Jul 1, 2008 | 03:47 PM
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Very nice looking engine bay I whould have just used new black tape but the blue looks ok.
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Dude this is extremely nice work, a lot time and dedication on that project. I wish you were my neighbor.
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Old Jul 2, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Dude this is extremely nice work, a lot time and dedication on that project. I wish you were my neighbor.
Well, we DO both live near a Disneyland... so that makes us some kind of neighbor.

Thanks, all, for the compliments. Sure didn't mean to hijack the OP's thread, though.
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Old Jul 3, 2008 | 08:36 AM
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Divin, your an *** dude. man If I was your neighbor forget about it i would be over your crib all the time as long as I was welcome and it was a day to play with the cars. I wish I had some Rx7 fanatics closer to me. Oh well but this will do with the ability to post pictures and the extremely descriptive instructions and tutorials I've seen here it's almost as if we were all neighbors.
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damn nice engine bay divin
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