Why not?
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Why not?
I've searched, and I realize not many people (if any) have a carb'd, 13bT. Why not? Wouldn't it be easier to do a 13bT carb'd instead of messing with the ECU's and wiring.
Mike
by the way, anyone have a 13b short block they wanna sell?
edit: oh by the way, does anyone have the website that sells the flush headlight kits? Thanks!
Mike
by the way, anyone have a 13b short block they wanna sell?
edit: oh by the way, does anyone have the website that sells the flush headlight kits? Thanks!
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http://www.cpracing.ca for the flush mount headlights.
I'm no authority on turbo setups but if I was doing a Bt I'd think the carb would be the easyer rout to take.........
I'm no authority on turbo setups but if I was doing a Bt I'd think the carb would be the easyer rout to take.........
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Carbs may be easier to setup,not neccesarily easier to tune.
The wiring on the TII is not that complex and the metered air EFI is friendly to mods,with no reprogramming needed for mild/moderate upgrades(to about 250hp)
No matter how you cut it,EFI is better.Why do you think there was an accute lack of turbo engines in the 70's-80's?(besides the fact that big Cu.in V-8s and cheap gas reigned supreme until the oil crisis)
Once EFI became mainstream (about 84-85) there were turbo cars everywhere.(Starion,323GTX,Probe,Chryslers,RX-7,Grand National,300ZX,Supra,ect,ect,ect).EFI allowed reliable fuleing under the high stress and varying conditions that turbo engines experience. Turbo engines will crumble if the mixture goes off track.EFI is monitering everything.A carb is 100% reliant on you to setup the correct fuel delivery settings.Which isnt to say they dont work with turbos,its just trickier,with less margin for error.
The wiring on the TII is not that complex and the metered air EFI is friendly to mods,with no reprogramming needed for mild/moderate upgrades(to about 250hp)
No matter how you cut it,EFI is better.Why do you think there was an accute lack of turbo engines in the 70's-80's?(besides the fact that big Cu.in V-8s and cheap gas reigned supreme until the oil crisis)
Once EFI became mainstream (about 84-85) there were turbo cars everywhere.(Starion,323GTX,Probe,Chryslers,RX-7,Grand National,300ZX,Supra,ect,ect,ect).EFI allowed reliable fuleing under the high stress and varying conditions that turbo engines experience. Turbo engines will crumble if the mixture goes off track.EFI is monitering everything.A carb is 100% reliant on you to setup the correct fuel delivery settings.Which isnt to say they dont work with turbos,its just trickier,with less margin for error.
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man, that hit it pretty much on the nose. Another point is price effective, which would be easier on the wallet? To me, carb still seems to be the easier/cheaper route....
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So long as you can tune and prep a carb for turbo and your very carful while tuning,then yes a carb is much cheaper.No special manifolds,no injectors,no electronics,no high pressure fuel,no computors.
You just have to adress the mods a carb needs to work under positive pressure,and you have to get it tuned to a safe mixture at all speeds/loads...WITHOUT blowing up or wounding the engine while experimenting.A dyno and wideband O2 obviously help,but it will take longer to do the tuning since you have to physically change things on the carb.With EFI,you just punch a keyboard(with a standalone ECU,anyways)
You just have to adress the mods a carb needs to work under positive pressure,and you have to get it tuned to a safe mixture at all speeds/loads...WITHOUT blowing up or wounding the engine while experimenting.A dyno and wideband O2 obviously help,but it will take longer to do the tuning since you have to physically change things on the carb.With EFI,you just punch a keyboard(with a standalone ECU,anyways)
