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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 12:15 PM
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Why does streetport cost so MUCH!?

I wanted to streetport/rebuild my 84gslse 13b efi . $2000CDN!!!!!!!
WTF!! U insane?? I paid half that for the WHOLE CAR! anybody know a cheaper way or comments on this BULLSHIT?
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 12:48 PM
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actually that price sounds about right to me. cheap, even.
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 12:51 PM
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Speed cost money!

Just a rebuild will cost about the same with or without the street port because while the engine is aprt you might as well port it.

The expensive parts of a rebuild are the apex seals and any housings or rotors you have to replace.

I have a question though.
I had an engine go water pump on me and before I tore it apart it had good compression. with about 40K miles on it the motor looked fine torn apart save a little flaking of the chrome on the housings.
Do I NEED to replace the apex seals?
Do I NEED to have the side housings lapped?
Can I just get a seal kit and slap the thing back together?
I was hoping with a seal kit and home porting i could put it back together and have a cheap, powerful motor?

Commments?

Thanks
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 12:57 PM
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Bullshit? 2000$ cdn is actually pretty damn cheap for a rebuild and port job. Go check out Mazdatrix if you want to see what this kind of job usualy costs.

Just curious... how much did you expect to pay for a port job?
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Actually, the porting costs is probably only about $300.00 US. The expense is rebuilding the engine, or at least dissassembly and reassembly. If you have to rebuild, that is the time to port, otherwise you are paying for an unneeded rebuild, or at least the labor.
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 02:38 PM
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You see, I don't understand why some people say things like hotty. I mean think about this: why complain about something that supposedly costs more than what you bought the car for? The way I look at things, if I bought a GSL-SE for less than $2000CDN and it was in really great shape, I'd say that I broke even (considering the equiv is around $1700USD). In other words, I try to look at total monies I've spent or will spend on a particular vehicle and try to justify that instead. Maybe I think more long term than most. That is how/why I can justify the expense of a 20B
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 08:53 PM
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Extra bits, sanding rolls, and sanding flaps: $40
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Being able to save money, bond with your car, and point at it with pride and say "I did that": Priceless
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Old Nov 26, 2001 | 10:46 PM
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I think for those who aren't inclined to do it themselves, 2000 bucks is a nice deal considering all the work and expertise involved.
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 01:12 AM
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...then just buy a yugo, or do they still make that? the everyday use of your car is $$$$. you end up spending more than what you bought the car for depending on how long you keep it decide that you don't want to $pend anymore, if any, $$$$ on the d@#$ thing. unfortunately parts for these cars don't come cheap anymore... especially repairing them. now you want to talk about performance upgrades... well good luck on the prices... your best bet is DO IT YOURSELF. otherwise $2000CDN is pretty damn good price for a 13B street port. That's about around what i'd sell it for. anywayz have fun decidin' and good luck


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 08:21 AM
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Re: Why does streetport cost so MUCH!?

Originally posted by hotty
I wanted to streetport/rebuild my 84gslse 13b efi . $2000CDN!!!!!!!
Hotty, Who quoted it and will they ship to Texas?
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 10:38 AM
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Hotty, Who quoted it and will they ship to Texas?



Hey there POS RACING, if you are interested in that price, give me a call, pm, or email me at r_ed_line53@yahoo.com.


84-85 gsl-se (13B)

Rebuilt = $1450.00
Core = $ 300.00
Street Port = $450.00
Shipping = $100.00 +/-


throw me a line if you're interested..

see ya,

car 53


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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:48 PM
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r_ed_line53, I want the Canadian Motor!

Because :
2,000 US Dollar = 3,198.60 Canadian Dollar
2,000 Canadian Dollar (CAD) = 1,250.55 US Dollar (USD)

Median price = 1.59840 / 1.59930 (bid/ask)
Minimum price = 1.59690 / 1.59770
Maximum price = 1.60170 / 1.60250

Can get quite the deal from our northern friends!
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Old Nov 27, 2001 | 12:52 PM
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Ok. On this forum, I dont wanna sound like a weenie, my stupid female friend picked my name, so, $2000 is good? At Racingbeat they have rebuild kits for$905 US for a 84 gsl-se 13b - they ever on sale? my friend will port it for me, and i will help and learn... thanks guys...
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 01:40 PM
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I was wondering whaddup wit dat name...
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Old Nov 30, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Hotty, wanted to follow up with ya, Who quoted it at $2000CDN!!!!!!! and will they ship to Texas?

Thanks Again,
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 11:06 PM
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Smile Porting is a labor of love

If the engine builder is giving u a decent street port, and brand new seals, etc, 2,000.oo is a fairly good price. for most of u that dont know. porting is a labor of love. the time it takes to really make a decent port is so labor intensive that is not done for the money. (to much labor) not enough $$$
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 09:20 AM
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Just as a refresher Hotty Stated 2,000CDN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canadian Money guys!

That's around $1,300 to those of us in the States!

2,000 US Dollar = 3,198.60 Canadian Dollar
2,000 Canadian Dollar (CAD) = 1,250.55 US Dollar (USD)

Median price = 1.59840 / 1.59930 (bid/ask)
Minimum price = 1.59690 / 1.59770
Maximum price = 1.60170 / 1.60250

Can get quite the deal from our northern friends!

But since Hotty never reveled his source, starting to think he was just fibbing to us.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 12:31 PM
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sorry, been a while. anyway, a friend of mine wants to rebuild/ streetport his engine and said he'd do mine for $2000 cdn. I doubt he would ship it to texas for that, but for you guys, I will ask. Later, EH?
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:17 PM
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Street Porting

I feel stupid asking this, but what is street porting and how much power will it add? I've done engine swaps before and consider myself somewhat savvy when it comes to working on cars, shouldn't I know??...Can anyone help me out?

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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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Very simplistically.... Streetporting is attacking the intake/exhaust ports with a dremel tool to increase air flow thru the engine.. Can increase horsepower by roughly 30% or more depending on how it is done...

Then ther eis periphial porting - J-port - bridge port etc etc...

How much power do you want to make, and how little time do you want it to last?

I know there is a good description out there somewhere... Anyone?
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 04:01 PM
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Copied from my list of links:

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http://members.home.com/sofronov/Cars/Mazda/Rotary.html - How does the rotary engine work? How is it different than a piston engine? Porting explained. All this and more here.
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Somewhere near the bottom is a link that explains porting. Good pics too.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 08:35 PM
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That's it?

All I have to do is take my drumel tool and expand the intake and exhaust ports on my 13B?! Wow, I'm going to my garage right now, talk to you later.

Thanks alot,
Jesse
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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It costed me 300 dollars to have my new 5 housings streetported at Mazdatrix. I wanted to do my own port job but didnt want to risk messing up my housings. Doing the port yourself i think is hard not only that buts its loud as hell. WHen i went to pick up my ported housings they were doing more porting and i can hear it all the way from the front desk. It was loud as hell...
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 09:40 PM
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Re: That's it?

Originally posted by wwjessedo
All I have to do is take my drumel tool and expand the intake and exhaust ports on my 13B?! Wow, I'm going to my garage right now, talk to you later.

Thanks alot,
Jesse
Hehe, it's not quite as simple as that. You can't just attack the ports with a grinder. Obviously the engine needs to be apart before you can do any porting. You need templates to achieve the correct port timing and shape, an air-grinder with various attatchments and alot of patience. Oh yeah, and a bit of experience and practice wouldn't hurt either. Hehe, I can just imagine you in the garage right now with an evil grin on your face hacking away at your ports with the dremel thinking this is gonna be sweet.

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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 09:48 PM
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Re: That's it?

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All I have to do is take my drumel tool and expand the intake and exhaust ports on my 13B?! Wow, I'm going to my garage right now, talk to you later.

Thanks alot,
Jesse
You wont be thanking us if you mess up your expensive housings. Do some more research if you are planning to do it yourself.
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