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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Personally, I like this quote....I love the fact that I have serial number 1090
I can see the apeal, and the next RX-7 I buy is going to be an early '79 (late '78) model...

Originally Posted by vipernicus42
I personally don't prefer the -SE. I like my car nice and base, and I like building up my '84GS so that I can eventually say "My GS beat your TII"... as it is, I can almost say "My GS beat your SE"

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Originally Posted by ray green
I personally like the GSLs. I mean, why buy a car that's 20+ years old that doesn't have a carbuerator? I can fix my GSLs anytime, anywhere, which is important because I count on them for my daily 110 mile round trip to work. Can SEs do this? RX-7s went down hill in their effort to be cool.

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I drive my -SE daily, and never had a reliablity problem, until the engine blew a coolant seal on the rear rotor...

In fact, other than the time I accidentally discovered my car had a fuel-pump cutoff swtich, she never had a problem until the end of the engine's life...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Z-beater, I'm probably getting 135 hp or so from my 12A, with the exhaust worked just right. And 23-24 MPG on my highway commute, mostly at 80 mph. Can SEs do this? I'm not prejudice, I'll probably buy an SE someday, but are SEs any better than GSLs for putting on miles?

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Yeah sounds about equivalent to a 13b. I get about 20 mpg in mine. That is awesome that you can hit 135 with just exhaust. 30 hp just is quite a bit just for exhaust. What kind do you have?
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Say SMNC, all three of my GSLs have their original engines, all three running strong with lots of total miles (176,000 + 139,000 - 85,000). Can SEs do this?

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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Say SMNC, all three of my GSLs have their original engines, all three running strong with lots of total miles (176,000 + 139,000 + 85,000). Can SEs do this?

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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I came close with my last -SE.
I ran about 21mpg, at about 75, but through a hilly area...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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When I started looking for my project I was simply out for ANY clean FB I could find To put a 6port B in that my freind had laying around into. But about a week later I saw an add for the SE I have now, bought it and then proceded to go a little crazy with it in the money department.


As said many times above, They just come with more good **** standard.

If two identical shape cars were for sale, a GSl and a GSL-SE for simmilar prices, one would be foolish not to buy the SE


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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Whoops, too much beer. On the exhaust, it's the Florida legal version, gut the first two cats and put in a pipe for the main one. Sweet car, my favorite. My new one has an aftermarket cat and's pretty peppy too. Are SEs that much faster?

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Hehe, you should have bought an -SE. They came with power mirrors and windows, but power steering and AC were options
if you read what i wrote, i said i could do WITHOUT the pwr. mirrors and windows. my car has them.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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13b's have 135hp and 133tq at the flywheel. I am guessing that you aren't reaching 135hp then by your beer comment. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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I admit I could go without the power mirror etc but they are so nice.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ray green
Say SMNC, all three of my GSLs have their original engines, all three running strong with lots of total miles (176,000 + 139,000 + 85,000). Can SEs do this?

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Hehe... I can't say for sure.
My old SE was still going strong when the body started to give out to rust at 150,000 miles.

My new one's engine started to die at about 145,000 miles, and kicked the bucket completely about 1000 miles later...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Ha that is funny smnc..it seems like more people are concerned about their body's rusting out. That is why I ma glad that mine is zeibarted. Ha ha no rust for me.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nick1
if you read what i wrote, i said i could do WITHOUT the pwr. mirrors and windows. my car has them.
My mistake... The windows ARE heavy but I love the abilty to open the passenger side window from my seat is nice... and the mirrors are a god-send after the wife has been driving and I need to re-adjust the mirrors...

That said I can appreciate the simplicity of my '85 base model too...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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I think I must be lucky, my damn rotaries just keep spinning around. My Buttometer is saying around 130 hp for my 84 GSL, but the main thing is I can cruise with the big guys at 80 mph, who needs more than that? Do the SEs take off when you need to pass some objectionable traffic at 80 mph? Just curious.

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by z-beater
Ha that is funny smnc..it seems like more people are concerned about their body's rusting out. That is why I ma glad that mine is zeibarted. Ha ha no rust for me.
Yeah, 'secially up here in Canada...

My first one was rusty when I bought it. It was my first car, so I wanted somthing I could beat on without feeling bad.

My new one has just gotten the rusty wheel wells taken care of, and it's getting Krowned (like Zeibart, but Canadian) as soon as I get it back...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Now this is why you need to live in Georgia. I got two rust free ones. Also there's no snow down here.

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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ive driven a lot of miles on a GSL-SE, it was damn nice compared to my first 85 GS, but i must say there is something to be said about the weight difference on the 12a powered cars, simpler to work on, and are great in the twisties. however the SE has the torque to pull it out of the corners a lot faster.

all in all id rather have a GSL-SE, but then again i think i'd rather just swap a 13b into a GS, i really dont need the extra options the SE has. headlight wipers? c'mon!

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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I almost bought an -SE, but I just couldn't do it. That car is worth far more restored than modded, and I wanted a car to mod. Same reason I turned down an SA. Some cars should be restored.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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By far the best Gen 1 was the GT-X, an efi turboed 12A with stacks of potential. Pity the US never got it, so as a consolation prize they got the GSL-SE with a 13B six port version aimed at lowering fuel consumption not better performance.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by comradegiant
cars should be restored.
Restomod nakka.

I think every thing done to my car was pretty much available when it was new.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by comradegiant
I almost bought an -SE, but I just couldn't do it. That car is worth far more restored than modded, and I wanted a car to mod. Same reason I turned down an SA. Some cars should be restored.

That's my rationale as well. I bought a GSL because I figured I'd mod it, maybe heavily. If I bought a GSL-SE I would keep it stock or be able to return it to stock very quickly and easily. Same for a 1st year 7 too.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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Not me... modding the heck outta my -SE.


I want a year one to keep stock...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:20 PM
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the only real gripe that i'll bet that most of us here w/ these cars is the damm power windows! their motors are very weak.

i'd want to convert my SE to non-power windows someday.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Two things.
1.) Clean and re-lube the mechanism.
2.) Add relays:
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars...r_windows.html
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