what racing class/type should i look into for my fb?
Originally posted by White84SE
Jeezus.. sorry to step on everyone's toes.. it was a joke.. As far as the cost though, I still maintain that you can road race cheaply... I didn't say you'd win, but you can do it cheaply and still have fun. Case in point, we've got an ITS 280Z... it's not blazing fast, but it's a reliable ol' tank. Oh, we paid $1800 for it, and still have less than $2500 in it... and on top of that, right now, I could have my pick of any one of a number of front-runner capable Spec-RX7's for right around $3k.. you just gotta look around...
--Danny
Jeezus.. sorry to step on everyone's toes.. it was a joke.. As far as the cost though, I still maintain that you can road race cheaply... I didn't say you'd win, but you can do it cheaply and still have fun. Case in point, we've got an ITS 280Z... it's not blazing fast, but it's a reliable ol' tank. Oh, we paid $1800 for it, and still have less than $2500 in it... and on top of that, right now, I could have my pick of any one of a number of front-runner capable Spec-RX7's for right around $3k.. you just gotta look around...
--Danny

the thing here is he wants to use his car as a daily driver and race. well, that pretty much leaves soloII. i don't think anyone's arguing that soo is more fun, but given the restrictions, it is the only fit.
Of course it MIGHT be more fun,,,,,,,,
Blew turn 4, got wide and went off course, hit 3 cones and killed the car, run was 8 seconds slower plus a 6 second penalty, wasted run, go back to grid to get ready for next run. entry fee $25 damage $0.
Blew turn 4, got wide and went off course, hit the tire wall and bounced back onto track hitting another car in the side and pushed him into a third, corner workers help get everyone out of cars as none can continue, your car is missing the right front corner and has flat on rear and must be loaded onto tilt bed, other drivers are pissed at you as thier day is also over, back in the paddock your car is uncerimoniously dumped at your trailer, car will not go on trailer so you begin making arraingement to get it home, also need another car for work tommorrow, a worker comes by to inform you you have been protested by the 2 guys you hit for "reckless driving" (rookie mistake), stewards review their video tapes and agree, you are now on 3 months probation, not too bad since it will take you that long to rebuild the car (assuming you can), when you finally get home (how far that is depends on the track) wife, girlfriend, mother, comes down on you for wrecking your car and almost getting killed, no explanations will surfice. entry fee $225 damage $X,XXX, will miss several events while making repairs.
I actually started (officially) racing on short circle tracks in '76 and was introduced to Solo in '77. I would hate to give up 1 in favor of the other. Both have their "highs" and can be very fullfilling (lots of experience answering "why do you race"). If I HAD to choose, I would choose road racing,,,,,,,but I already have over 400 autocrosses. And that "perfect run" I mentioned,,,,,,, I count 3 for myself,,,,,in almost 3,000 attempts!
Blew turn 4, got wide and went off course, hit 3 cones and killed the car, run was 8 seconds slower plus a 6 second penalty, wasted run, go back to grid to get ready for next run. entry fee $25 damage $0.
Blew turn 4, got wide and went off course, hit the tire wall and bounced back onto track hitting another car in the side and pushed him into a third, corner workers help get everyone out of cars as none can continue, your car is missing the right front corner and has flat on rear and must be loaded onto tilt bed, other drivers are pissed at you as thier day is also over, back in the paddock your car is uncerimoniously dumped at your trailer, car will not go on trailer so you begin making arraingement to get it home, also need another car for work tommorrow, a worker comes by to inform you you have been protested by the 2 guys you hit for "reckless driving" (rookie mistake), stewards review their video tapes and agree, you are now on 3 months probation, not too bad since it will take you that long to rebuild the car (assuming you can), when you finally get home (how far that is depends on the track) wife, girlfriend, mother, comes down on you for wrecking your car and almost getting killed, no explanations will surfice. entry fee $225 damage $X,XXX, will miss several events while making repairs.
I actually started (officially) racing on short circle tracks in '76 and was introduced to Solo in '77. I would hate to give up 1 in favor of the other. Both have their "highs" and can be very fullfilling (lots of experience answering "why do you race"). If I HAD to choose, I would choose road racing,,,,,,,but I already have over 400 autocrosses. And that "perfect run" I mentioned,,,,,,, I count 3 for myself,,,,,in almost 3,000 attempts!
I haven't done circles for 20 years now. Back then they started a "mini stockers" class. I was excited reading the rules (1600 cc & under) as I immeadiately thought of what to do. Then the last line,,,, in CAPITAL and BOLD letters it said NO ROTARY ENGINES !!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ******!
Recently I reviewed the rules of several circle track groups around here for info relative to RallyCross. I still find that same line everywhere! It seems to be one of the "Commandments" redneck stock car racing bodies. ""Thou shall NOT allow competition from an engine I don't understand"" I still fantasize about running a rotary at Indy,,,,,
Recently I reviewed the rules of several circle track groups around here for info relative to RallyCross. I still find that same line everywhere! It seems to be one of the "Commandments" redneck stock car racing bodies. ""Thou shall NOT allow competition from an engine I don't understand"" I still fantasize about running a rotary at Indy,,,,,
Mainly due to the difficulty classifying it. After all its smaller than the smallest four cylinder yet puts out as much power as many v-6's. Yet how would YOU like to run in the big car class.
Have you ever driven a high hp (30-50hp) 125cc two stroke sprint kart? Well I've done both...racing wheel to wheel at speeds of 80mph and above is alot more exciting than autoXing through cones...imo. Racing my kart is the most fun I've had whilst still wearing clothes.
You can get your seat time in a very constructive and safe enviroment by going to opentrack events set up by either :local car clubs, www.scca.org , www.nasaproracing.com or any othre sanctioning body in your region.... Please dont get the idea that these track events are outside of your reach, they are ment to be avenues of introduction for new people. they all have driving school classes that are a great place to start with your own car too. your only requirement that every event asks is you have the following: properly maintained car, good tires, battery tie down, SA approved helmut, and some require long sleeve clothes. Unless you try to become a pro and go beyond regional points racing you almost never need a race suit or a rollcage.. ther are instructors and friendly people at these events to address your needs and even ride along to give you their pointer. the events are croppped into multiple groups to put equal level drivers in the same sessions as to keep it as safe as possible and many people bring daliy driven family cars!! dont be discouraged and sent to some lame cone race!!! the cone racing is a great alternative when it comes to money but should nevr be a substitute to the real thing (contrary to many peeps beliefs) GO! GO! GO!
btw
SRA rules !!!!lol
I have autocrossed naked. 
No one has said "don't go racing wheel to wheel" (I think) but rather talking about a progression of activity that would give experience and knowledge that a novice can use to stay safe and be competitve. Those drivers who HAVE a good SOLO background almost always say that it was to their benefit.
I have not raced karts, but I certainly would if the opportunity came about.

No one has said "don't go racing wheel to wheel" (I think) but rather talking about a progression of activity that would give experience and knowledge that a novice can use to stay safe and be competitve. Those drivers who HAVE a good SOLO background almost always say that it was to their benefit.
I have not raced karts, but I certainly would if the opportunity came about.
Re: what racing class/type should i look into for my fb?
Originally posted by thorin
what racing class/type should i look into for my fb?
i dont have all that much money.
to boot, my car would still have to get me to work and schoool every day.
ideas?
what racing class/type should i look into for my fb?
i dont have all that much money.
to boot, my car would still have to get me to work and schoool every day.
ideas?
Thorin wants to race his FB, doesn't have "all that much money", and needs to drive it to work and school everyday. Solo II for $20 - see if you like it. There's no one else out there to run into you. There aren't any walls to run into. There is no money to be spent prepping your car, it just needs to be in good working order (which it should be anyway if it's being driven daily).
I just don't understand how suggesting w2w or cart racing is very productive as it doesn't meet the criteria. I guess if we're just throwing ideas out there - Thorin, I think you should start your own NASCAR team
I'm not saying that autoXing is not worth while or fun. But karting is the cheapest way to get into racing. Even something like IT or Pro7 will eventually (maybe potentially) be more expensive than karting. If you read the post it was obviously tongue in cheek. Afterall, I did say he should trade his Rex in for a BICYCLE and a kart.
If any of you do get a chance to drive a LITTLE 28hp kart that has roughly the power to weight ratio of the RX8 or the 350Z but corners at over 1g...do it.
If any of you do get a chance to drive a LITTLE 28hp kart that has roughly the power to weight ratio of the RX8 or the 350Z but corners at over 1g...do it.
Thorin,
Bracket drag racing, as you mentioned, would also be a cheap racing alternative. Basically, you decide what sort of time your car is capable of...a time that is repeatable...called your dial-in. The competition is seeing who is the closest to their dial-in. Considering you could line up with an 8 second pro street monster or a 16 second hummer, the sport could be fairly interesting.
Bracket drag racing, as you mentioned, would also be a cheap racing alternative. Basically, you decide what sort of time your car is capable of...a time that is repeatable...called your dial-in. The competition is seeing who is the closest to their dial-in. Considering you could line up with an 8 second pro street monster or a 16 second hummer, the sport could be fairly interesting.
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