What HP at dyno are you turbo guys getting?
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The 12A is a better platform to get torque and horsepower out of. The motor is stronger and less complicated. Horsepower is only good ro maintaining the speed that the torque get's you to. If you focus more on torque than horspower, you'll have a car that will take everyone by suprise
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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
The 12A is a better platform to get torque and horsepower out of. The motor is stronger and less complicated. Horsepower is only good ro maintaining the speed that the torque get's you to. If you focus more on torque than horspower, you'll have a car that will take everyone by suprise
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I've heard of 1000 hp 12A's. The 12A reacts much greater to any type of modification than the others. From my experiece, the 12A has just been a better platform to build upon than a 13B. But to each his own. Plus, in my opinion too many people swap to a 13B and just over look the 12A when in fact, built right, a 12A can pack as potent, if not more of a punch than a 13B
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Originally Posted by 84stock
Sounds just like the old small block vs big block argument. 350 vs 396, etc etc
I agree, it is stupid to argue which motor made more horsepower. I seriously doubt he is looking to get 720 horsepower out of his motor, much less 1000. On top of that not one of you actually gave him HP numbers from your cars. I am not trying to be a dick but he asked for HP numbers and torque numbers only.
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Originally Posted by razorback
what was done to roberts 720hp 12a? anything special?
720 rwhp@9,000 rpms
only 420 torque tho... o well its a 12a.
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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
I've heard of 1000 hp 12A's. The 12A reacts much greater to any type of modification than the others. From my experiece, the 12A has just been a better platform to build upon than a 13B. But to each his own. Plus, in my opinion too many people swap to a 13B and just over look the 12A when in fact, built right, a 12A can pack as potent, if not more of a punch than a 13B
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Originally Posted by 12at
I nearly made 500rwhp with my 12a on a dyno dynamics dyno. Only made 350 ft of torque though.
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I agree with the 12A
and the 13B both
its what your talented with.
at the race track here they all have the same engine. a 350 in their car, but it has to do with what they put in it.
dirt car.
if they dont know how to tune a car. they cant run crap , and they get lapped twice. and its the same motor.
just my 2 cents.
id go witht the 12A if you like the carb or the 13B if you are talented with computer
and the 13B both
its what your talented with.
at the race track here they all have the same engine. a 350 in their car, but it has to do with what they put in it.
dirt car.
if they dont know how to tune a car. they cant run crap , and they get lapped twice. and its the same motor.
just my 2 cents.
id go witht the 12A if you like the carb or the 13B if you are talented with computer
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Originally Posted by FirebirdSlayer666
The 12A is a better platform to get torque and horsepower out of. The motor is stronger and less complicated. Horsepower is only good ro maintaining the speed that the torque get's you to. If you focus more on torque than horspower, you'll have a car that will take everyone by suprise
As for the torque vs hp thing, torque by itself is useless. But when it's looked at in relation to the rpm it's produced at it gives us a meaningful figure. ie. horespower.
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Originally Posted by 85rotarypower
I've seen many hp numbers, and generally a 13B makes more power and torque than a 12A. It makes sense though. The bigger engine makes more power, thats just the way things are. Other factors do come into play here, but generally, a 13B is more potent than a 12A. Why do you think mazda phased out the 12A anyway?
I was one who wanted to Turbo a 12A.
I dont believe in the Nikki carb set up.
I dont believe in the stock FC TII turbo's
I finally woke up and said **** it.
Plans are J spec 13bt,,street port,Pinned,Microtech LT8X,PT61....
Ill leave it at that..
DirectFreak,
Tampa is not to far from Miami
But these days,the kids want to slap on a turbo on anything,the cool factor still wont make you win.
I guess it depends where you are from,Theres to much competition here to run a backyard bullshit 12A turbo set up here in FL
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Originally Posted by Tranquil
So are you calling him out? Because that would probably make another great Direct Freak video. I have a DVD dedicated to just his vids.
But I wouldnt mind running another 7 for ***** and giggles.
I havent seen any of his latest vids,so send them to me
rotary7@gmail.com
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Originally Posted by Nicholas P.
its not that bigger!!!.
they outlawed 12A because they moved on to fuel injection. plus for more buisness sales. all sorts of things :P
they outlawed 12A because they moved on to fuel injection. plus for more buisness sales. all sorts of things :P