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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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What Coils to use???

Ok, I'm doing a tune up on my 85 GSL-SE and there are two types of coils a Mitsubishi and a Hanshin listed for replacements. How do I find out which one I have? The coils in the car now say Diamond LB-84 12V 5218.

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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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buy after market coils that produce more spark, they dont cost that much more and will smoth out your engine.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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I use MSD Blaster 2 coils.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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Actually, aftermarket coils are usually cheaper - maybe not blasters but, IMO, those are over kill in a stock set up. Accel's are decent and cheap
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Hanshin and Bosch work.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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I went with Crane Fireball's from Victoria British, and can't say that I noticed any difference at all. Piece of mind is worth the added expense, however.

The original coils seem to work just fine after 20 years, and for tune-up purposes, it seems that money is better spent on a new cap and rotor, new plugs, and a new air filter, rather than replacing coils to get better performance. This is for stock, or slightly- modified, of course.

If it were me, I would spend the extra money on a quality timing light and an oil-change - you'll probably experience better performance by checking your timing now and then, and having clean oil to inject. HTH,
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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i used 3 accels for my dlidfis setup, and they are garbage, they wern't even sparking my trailing, and the spark for the leading isn't that hot, i was dissapointed, but a good price though
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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just use second gen coils. get the whole igniter and coil for leading. instant direct fire! and use a leading igniter and trailing coil for the trailing. cheap and easy, good power gains too
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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on a sidenote I bought accel's plug wires and one of them went after maybe 2 months. Between that and other feedback I'm not so sure about Accel.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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When i switched from stock to Accel wires and coils, it was like a whole new car. It starts alot better when its cold now.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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Originally posted by boosted12a
just use second gen coils. get the whole igniter and coil for leading. instant direct fire! and use a leading igniter and trailing coil for the trailing. cheap and easy, good power gains too
What's in your car?
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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Thanks for all the replies, but my question did not get answered. What is the difference between the Mitsubishi and Hanshin coils?
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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msd/ second gen coil leading, secondgen trailing coil on the trailing. the secondgen igniter is in work
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Sounds like to me the mits and hanshin are stock replacements, dont know. I do know the mitsubishi is the stock coil. I also know, is I have used MSD Blaster2 coils and have experienced noticable gains.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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I also know, is I have used MSD Blaster2 coils and have experienced noticable gains
You're also running a direct fire set up with an MSD - in this case, blasters makes sense. For stock replacements (firing up those stock ignitors), way too much money and the gains would be most likely unnoticeable.

sounds like a few bad experineces with Accel (and a few good ones) - I have run Accel for 5 years on 2 different FB's and they work great. Both cars were set up with MSD's
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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I'd say the Mitsubishi coil is like the Hanshin as well. Just look for any wording on the coil which should tell you if it is supposed to be hooked to a transistor ignition, or a ballast resistor/points ignition. Hanshin and Bosch both say this, as do Diamond.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I had accel coils in my car and toasted one. Then i went and read and they arent rated for that high of reving, i think it is like 6000 or 7000 rpm but i cant remember exactly. Also i have toasted one of the accel spark plug wires it was grounding itself on the bar going across. I went and put in msd blasters and there great
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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I have accels on my car and my spark is fine.
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