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Old 10-21-09, 08:14 PM
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Hey anobody wanna trade chokes and jets in here? Instead of buying new ones. Im looking for some 40s
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65 will run a little lean but will work better with smaller chokes
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Originally Posted by rotorholic
65 will run a little lean but will work better with smaller chokes
I will keep the 70 then since I am going to swap my 37 chokes with some 40mm that I just got
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Originally Posted by n0ferz
I see, I just found out that the idle jets came lose in there and were not attached to the air corrector, these 65F10 dont attach tight like the 70F10, why would that be ???

So you recommend me to stay with the 70idle jets, get 40mm chokes and forget bout the 65idle jets?

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It's just differences in the manufacturing process. I've got some idle jets that didn't want to stay in my holders. I was able gently press the sides of the holder together so that it holds the jets snugly.

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Hey anobody wanna trade chokes and jets in here? Instead of buying new ones. Im looking for some 40s
I've got some 40s, but they're for a 45 DCOE. I'll trade someone for 38s.
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somebody should make a weber parts/jets trading thread, could save us a some money....
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What was the result? Any jetting recommendations with the F7?

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Old 05-15-10, 08:48 PM
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Hyper,

Is your engine a 6 or 4 port 13B?
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Hyper,

Is your engine a 6 or 4 port 13B?
If I remember correctly, he was running a 6 port with the ports wired open.
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Hyper's motor is mostly GSL-SE, with a 12A Y intermediate plate and S4 rotating assembly, IIRC. No sleeves in the aux. ports since it has an IDA.
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Any update Hyper4mance2k? Still hapy with the F-3s?

Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
Sorry I was in Miami! lol
Well i got some more stuff in and did some test drives today. Put in 60 idle jets and it's undriveable. 65's are perfect with 120 idle jet holders. I decided to try out f-3's since they are identical to f-11's except with a smaller middle section to allow the main circut to come on earlier which would eliminate teh lean stumble f-11 owners seem to always complain about.
Put in the f-3's and it's so much better now. No stumble on initial testdrives at all. It went like this all in all.
F-11's too lean in the midrange and caused the main circut to come on too late causing a lean stumble at cruise.
f-16's were the exact same problem, but it was even worse. I went from 205m/165 a/c to 220m and 120 a/c just to get it home, and it was still too lean.
f-7's were great up top but I had to run 205main and 180 a/c to get 13:1 afr's at WOT and it was 10:5 at cruise causeing rich stumble on cruise
f-8's allowed me to run 205 main with 120 a/c and got 12.5:1 afr's at WOT 11.5:1 afr's at cruise with the occaisional rich bog at cruise spiking the wide band at 10:1
f-3's 205 main with 140 a/c gets me 12.5: at cruise and 12.5:1 at WOT no noticeable stumble at cruise anywhere yet.
Current setup is as follows
48IDA
3rd .8mm progression hole added
43mm chokes
65f10 idle
120 idle holder
205 main
140 a/c
f-3 e-tube. Car drives better than it ever has before.
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Yes I still love the F-3's but jetting has changed considering I live at 2500 ft in elevation and in the worlds lamest desert town now. A small part of me misses Seattle.
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I ordered some F3 tubes a few days ago. I'll update how it runs in a few days.
Old 01-28-14, 09:08 PM
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Yes yes, I know it's old. But I wanted to bump this for some updates.

Also, maybe we can get some turbo tuning tips


My current set up:

12a small street port. S5 T2 Turbo (12psi)
(Not currently running. Minor things needed still)

51 IDA
37mm chokes
3.2 needle valve
60f10 idle jet
120 idle holder
195 main
150 air corrector
f-2 e-tube

Does this look like a good starting point? My 1st thought is my e-tube might be to rich? F3 or even F11" turbo" e-tube might work. The turbo e-tubes can be purchased from Jaycee and I was told they are standard tubes turned down. Letting you have your lean cruise and idle, and more fuel up top.
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Those charts are gold once you understand how the tubes work, after reading a few carb tuning theory books I redrilled a few sets of tubes and found almost perfect afr all the way to 9k rpm, 12.2 to 13.5, but it was trial and error, it took several attempts but once I got it the cars got better mpg and power than ever before
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I'm a fan of this old thread.

12A stock port:
60f10 idle
120 idle air
F1 e-tubes
160 main
145 air
38mm chokes

Best jettings so far for me.
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Glad to see people still referencing my old stuff. By far the best thing you can change in an IDA is the idle air bleed. I could never find a 100, so I soldered my 120's closed and redrilled them to 100. Completely killed the transition bog, and no need for the added fuel bleeds in the idle circuit.
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
Glad to see people still referencing my old stuff. By far the best thing you can change in an IDA is the idle air bleed. I could never find a 100, so I soldered my 120's closed and redrilled them to 100. Completely killed the transition bog, and no need for the added fuel bleeds in the idle circuit.
i did the same thing with the same result. actually i can get the mains to come on so hard the engine will stop running...
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
i did the same thing with the same result. actually i can get the mains to come on so hard the engine will stop running...
With the f3 e-tubes the 100 air bleed and the transition mod, I had my car running so damn well. Dave Lemon (MazdaTrix owner) went for a ride in my car and was amazed by how well it drove with 43mm chokes. I couls so so small on the main jets I was holding 13:1 AFRs to 8k rpm, and I was averaging 21 mpg.

Someone out there is (i hope) happy with that carb. I have no idea who I sold it to.
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Old 03-03-15, 05:40 PM
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I usually buy my hard to find Weber and Solex jets and misc. from this eBay seller: alfa1750

They're in Italy btw.
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Do idf and ida Webers use the same jets, e-tubes, ect. ect.?

Do recommended settings for ida's work for idf's as well?
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Originally Posted by sen2two
Do idf and ida Webers use the same jets, e-tubes, ect. ect.?

Do recommended settings for ida's work for idf's as well?
IDAs and IDFs share e-tubes, air correctors and main jets but not idle jets.
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Originally Posted by dr.occa
IDAs and IDFs share e-tubes, air correctors and main jets but not idle jets.
Also, the IDF use a diaphragm pump jet, while the IDA uses a mechanical bypass pump-jet. I'm not sure if the IDF pump-jet is adjustable.
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in my 13b j-bridge with a terminator 2carb 55 chokes it likes f2 my 13b pp terminator2 carb hates f2 but likes f8 any ideas same carb diff porting but way diff emulsion tubes
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Originally Posted by r100 repu
in my 13b j-bridge with a terminator 2carb 55 chokes it likes f2 my 13b pp terminator2 carb hates f2 but likes f8 any ideas same carb diff porting but way diff emulsion tubes
Its because the larger port has less velocity and it's harder to get fuel out of the fuel wells, so different etubes are needed.

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