therotaryrocket

my car was going to my friend for $400 because he helped me work on it, he has a motorcycle that he doesn't want to ride in the winter time so he wanted to buy my car. If I was going to sell to someone else it might be $500, I don't know I would have to ask my dad if he would let me sell it...he paid for my carburetor. I was at 6200 rpms and because of this hurricane it would push me from the back every now and then, my redline buzzer keeps going off at like 6k rpms sometimes so it stayed buzzing for atleast 30 seconds this one time, thats why I backed off some. BTW could there be a dowel pin leak on the rear rotor? Maybe its just off of my oil cooler but theres usually oil under the cooler on the rear rotor. I'm still scared, I don't know what i'm going to do. I'm back in NC and will pretty much for sure atleast lose my VA liscense. How can I say my throttle was stuck if I didn't tell the officer that? And how would I be able to stop as soon as the cop showed up?

rx46s

You should have gone up I95, people drive 85-90 all the time on it and the cops just sit on the side and watch because they can stop everyone...


I try not to go more than 10 over the limit... never be the fastest car on the road.

good luck, be very sorry and the judge might let you keep your birthday.

sw

cosmicbang

You can't. Just Be truthful and do not say anything other than what your attorney tells you to say!!! You are paying for his legal advice, after all. Furthermore the judge was not born yesterday and will know bullshit when he hears it, and he will not be pleased. Otherwise, since you are only 16 and it is your first offense, he might want to teach you a lesson, but not totally throw the book at you. It might be a little painful but will work out.

NewRXr

Rocket, as for your court dates, like you've been told several times the judge will throw the book at you if he smells BS. You're 16, you couldn't fool a judge if you had to. Hire the Lawyer, do what he says, dress nice for court and don't wear any ear rings, nose rings, or whatever that makes you look like a punk. If needed get a decent hair cut. Sit up strait and pay attention. Don't do anything to **** the judge off. It's a good idea to admit you realize you made a mistake, are sorry, and regret etc. it but don't over do it. If you push it hard the judge will think you're blowing smoke up his azz and make sure you are sorry. If they don't know you were going for miles and miles at those speeds don't tell them. They only know what the cop saw. Give the court some proof you sold the car shortly after this, that will give you some creditability as for accepting the truth of it all.

Cops usually do get aggressive when they have to chase someone down at those speeds. Like I said, I've done the same stupid crap and I've been there. To you I would bet it was kinda like a real life video game and you were blasting around the track in your cool RX-7. But put your self in his shoes, he knows all to well what could happen. He sees dead fools all the time because of accidents at high speeds. He's been around long enough to have had a high speed blow-out (I know I have) and worries about if he's going to make it home to his life tonight or end up spattered across a tree because he has to chase down some dumb azz who might kill someone elses family if he lets him go. So he's going faster than you for a couple of miles to catch up in a Impala for GOD's sake with white knuckles the whole time thinking "I'm gonna kick this dudes azz when I get a'hold of him." Then he pulls out two stupid kids who look like they just **** their pants. He's going to teach you as much lesson as he can. If you had been the least bit out of line with him you probably would have gone to jail. If it had been me, I'd have took you in just for principle. If you want to impress the cop now don't thank him, appoligize for putting his life in danger.

therotaryrocket

Well, does $750 dollars sound right for the lawyer? I still need to sell my car...$500 dollars (runs well, needs clutch master, and inspection).

85gsl2ndtimearound

My Advice is go to that court house next week and sit in on the same procedings that you will partake in on your day of reckoning. Make sure it the same judge youll have. Find out what defence lawyer has it in good with the state and that you will be comfortibal with. After that your should have no other concerns but how am i gona come up with all this scratch. TRUST ME YOU NEED A GOOD LAWYER !!!! I was looking at 1 year in jail and revoked for not showing up for a dwls ticket. This was after i showed up to Quash the warrent. ONCE AGAIN YOU NEED A GOOD, COMPITENT, WELL DRESSED AND PAID LAWYER!!!! Got off with a 500.0 fine and no loss of licence. Of course i had a GOOD LAWYER.

Now to me I dont think you learned your lesson but who am i to talk.

I Also often say to my self REAL F'IN STOOPID PETE! I Must say the same to you.

85gsl2ndtimearound

O Ya Good Luck!!!

Brianhsval

I have had YEARS of experience with Virginia, and speeding. 1st, they do use Vascar. This is no more than a timing device and unbeatable! 2nd, Bedford county sucks, but can be delt with if done properly. 3rd, Virginia can and will suspend your driving privliges in their state. Count on that one.

I can tell you from years of experience, the first thing to do is for YOU to call the DA in Bedford yourself. Don't try and shine him on either. Tell the truth! They DO make deals over the phone. The only interest they have is in getting the money. I did jail time in Fairfax county because of Bedford county. I even had a letter from Richmond DMV clearing me in the state! Virginia is not a state to **** with. As far as intrapment goes.....yea whatever! If you cannot call the DA then get your father to do it. Beg pleed whatever it takes, but call before you get a lawyer.

You were adult enough to travel at that speed ACT adult enough when you call. Don't get scared and cry it wont help. I wouldn't sell my car over it either. Bedford county will take payments. Virginia is divided into 5 sections whom do NOT report to each other. Unless you have a warrant. Not applicable but thought that I would throw that in.

Do this first, and go from there. They will respect that yo are trying to handle this. Do not let them con you into coming to court with the promise that you will not go to jail! If you go to court take enough cash to bond out. 10% of the total set by the judge. You can get an extension on your court date. Do whatever you have to to raise cash and handle this in an adult manner.

Good luck and remember, if you are going to play you must pay, just don't play in VIrginia!

SERIES 1 XLR8

What i think u should do is SLOW DOWN!!!

But in court, thats a different story. Just say that u had just been for a run and you didn't stretch properly afterwards. U got a MASSIVE cramp in your leg as u accelerated and couldn't move your leg. Stress how scared u were and stuff.

1984rx7roqet

750 vdollars for a lwayer...thats cheap. In Illinois you will pay at least 1500 for the lawyer. If you pay 2500 he will get you down to a seatbelt violation...75bucks here. Also in Illinois if you are ccaught speeding in a construction zone the fine is 500-1500 dollars, depending on speed, and how many owrkers are in the area. If you hit a worker, it is a madatory 14 years in jail, and 100,000 fine. How is that for stiff...

LongDuck

It's amazing to me how many of you guys posting up after 'therotaryrocket' are trying to help him weasel out of the responsibility of being an idiot on the public roads!

You were stupid - you know that now. You got caught. You were stupid before this, because this wasn't your first time going that fast. Now that you've been caught, you see the error of your ways.

Sell your car. Proving this with a bill of sale and title transfer will go a distance with the court. Hire that attorney - use your car sale funds to pay for the attorney, and USE YOUR OWN MONEY. The judge is going to ask, and if you start lying on ANY of this, he's going to know - you are under oath. Lie to the court, and you can plan on jailtime and a suspended license until you're 18, could also be longer, based on the offense.

Make this right. Just because you were stupid doesn't mean you get to claim 'stupidity' and get out of it, no matter how much some here would have you believe. Faulty 'equipment' isn't going to cover up your act.

Be truthful, be honest. Don't be stupid in a car anymore. Inexperienced drivers like you are my greatest fear on the roads - when I see fools like you driving, I fear for my life and the lives of my loved ones who may not see you coming.

I don't care about the circumstances, and neither will the judge. Stick to how you're trying to own up to your behavior and don't dwell on the how's and why's of your court appearance.

Above all, learn from this - you've already commited the crime. Humble yourself. Vow not to be a danger to the rest of society. Learn how to be a man.

Good luck, and I mean that sincerely.

FDNewbie

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Hey man....sorry to hear about your ticket. But I gotta say, you're a little young to have such a head start on getting a bad wrap w/ VA. I've been driving in VA for 6 years, and 3 in PA. I've only gotten one really bad ticket in VA about every 5 years or so (just this past month, I got an 85 in a 55). Just be glad you're not in Fairfax County like I am. They throw the book AND their shoes at you lol. They freakin take it personal man. Only time will tell how bad this is gonna turn out to be. I'm prayin tho.

In your case, however, when you said: There's DEFINITELY something wrong there. I hope you mentioned this point to your lawyer. Speeding is an immediate danger, and by law, cops MUST pull you over IMMEDIATELY upon establishing the fact that you're speeding. It's not like running a stop sign, where they can continue to follow you, waiting for you to make another mistake. Once you're clocked speeding, he doesn't need to pace you, and definitely can't just follow you for another 2 miles to get you at a higher speed. If that isn't entrapment, I dunno what is. This isn't gonna get you off of your ticket/suspension, but it may be a bargaining chip the lawyer can use w/ the DA, since the cop didn't conduct the stop "by the book."

Good luck man, and be smarter next time. At least if you're gonna speed, make it something that you can handle the reprecussions of, JUST IN CASE you get caught.

Hadoken

You ever think it may have taken him 2 miles to get the police cruiser in gear and catch up to him going 108mph? And by that time he was going 115mph?

FDNewbie

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Possible, but unlikely. Because according to Lauren, the cop SAID he paced him. That's total BS. He shouldn't have done that. I'd love to see the ticket itself, and see whether he wrote down "Radar" or "pace" for the speed "115mph" Cuz pace means he accelerated WITHOUT HIS LIGHTS OR SIREN ON, continued to match his speed w/ that of Lauren's, until he established a speed, AGAIN, WITH HIS LIGHTS AND SIREN OFF. That's against policy. You establish speeding, the FIRST THING you do is turn on the lights and/or siren. Think back to every time you've gotten caught via radar from a cop standing by the side of the road. The FIRST thing he does is light it up, as he comes off the shoulder.

The simple difference here is, if the cop was trying to catch up to him w/ his lights and siren ON, then ok, there's nothing to argue. But if he caught up to him, did not have his lights on, and PACED him, THEN proceeded to turn on his lights, the cop is WRONG WRONG WRONG.

All this is under the premise the cop is NOT lying about getting him on radar doing 108. Cuz if the cop never got a reading to begin w/, he as every right to pace him, but in that case he's lying about the radar reading. If he's being honest about the radar reading, then he can't pace... so he's dug himself into a hole...

marlaman

Regardless, do you want an idiot 16 year old flying down the highway at that speed? the ONLY times i take my car up that high is on back roads in the middle of B-F nowhere so if anybody does get hurt, it'll only be me and Pula(my car)

BOY you deserved that ticket and if i were the cop i would have taken your car away without even thinking about it. that's felony style driving and very reckless, and i bet your tires wern't even rated for those speeds.

sell your car and get a kia, grow up, and then get a 7 again.
Matt

FDNewbie

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Matt,

I never said what he did was okay...and in fact, in the state of VA, doing 90 and above is automatic jail time, not just at the time of arrest, but then again from the court date. So you can get throw in in jail for an overnighter when you get caught, come out, go to court, and go back to jail for anywhere from a few days to a month or so. Not fun.

But Matt, on the same token, c'mon...some of the roads ARE totally empty. I personally don't see what's so bad as doing 85-90 on a four lane highway in relatively little or no traffic at all, esp. if your car can handle it (my FD). Ya sure it's breaking the law, but contrary to what everyone thinks/says, it's not the speed itself that's dangerous...it's the RELATIVE speed (how fast you are going compared to the traffic and surroundings around you). That's the reason why the autobahn is possible...people know to always yield to faster traffic, the cars are made to handle above "normal" speeds, and drivers are much more competent (there's a reason why it takes almost $6000 US dollars and a driving test that includes rain and snow to get your license in Germany).

Also, regardless of the hype, an impact at 60mph isn't gonna be that much worse than an impact at 100mph. Both probably have a 90%+ chance of a fatality. The few pecent difference at an already incredibly high fatality rate don't really make *much* of a difference...except for statistical purposes.

rotor vs. piston

Tires? Most likely not. What I think about is that this post is in the first gen section, is that 20+ year old car up to snuff enough to go a sustained 110mph+? I really hate to see someone that keeps an SA/FB on the road punished for enjoying thier car, but I'd take you licens if I could. Be glad the cop stopped you and not a deer, child, tree, or any other uncontrollable object.

cpt_gloval

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that's pretty much not true.

entrapment = manipulating you into a position where your best option is to break the law, and then arrest you on it. like threaten your life if you don't buy drugs or something.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=entrapment

FDNewbie

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Another example of entrapment is when a cop, while attempting to pace you, rides your bumper so badly that you really have no choice but to speed up. Then they light you up. Cops actually do that VERY often, because they KNOW your word weighs nothing in court, so they're not worried about it in the least. You def. don't wanna use that word in VA courts unless you have some serious evidence...

Moonchopper

lol, I say let the damn cop ride your bumper. For those of us with off-road vehicles, fabricated bumpers are sometimes necessary. I'm sure that most people notice that these bumpers are beefier, and, as a result, tend to back off a little when you brake-check them

Besides, if the cop rear ends you, it'd be pretty damn hard for him to explain that.

Wargasm

Stories like this are why I refuse to live in VA!

Good luck, you will need it.

cpt_gloval

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lol https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...59&postcount=2

FDNewbie

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Oh man oh man... That is like my ULTIMATE DREAM haha. Of course, not in the FD...but oh wow...and I mean, I wouldn't just tap the brakes, I would straight SLAM on them, as if trying to set a braking record LOL.

kenn_chan

Kid whatever some of the idiots here wrote, please ignore, Yeah you are in trouble, no ****. BSing the judge won't work, he didn't get there by being stupid, if the county/state you got grabbed in likes to go straight to the wallet, then let them. its better to pay (cash) than to pay (jail time) I work for the US government, and I have yet to see the base I work at hire somebody with a record, and we have trouble filling slots! most states won't hire, most companies that contract with the government in some form won't hire, and if thats not bad enough this **** will wack your license, insureance, credit rating and a whole lot of other areas of your life,

1. check out the courthouse and judge like previsouly reccomended
2. get a lawyer regardless, if it turns out you didn't need him thats freakin life
3. being remorseful, SHOWING THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED!
4. sell the car. get a reciept.
5. take the online drivers improvement, and when given the chance explain to the judge that you were stupid, dangerous, and that you have LEARNED the error of your ways and are working to make ammends, offer to take up community service (hell do some now)(get proof of prior) to show that you are working on improving yourself.
6. and finaly dress to impress neat suit, haircut, no piercings, no rude language, yes your honor, no your honor 3 bags full!
7. if they are really after money and thats it, you will walk off with a minor suspension, a large fine, and some community service. None of which will hurt you.

8. lastly ignore idots like that offer up lame *** stupid **** like this to you.

quoted from a really stupi juvenile post!

But in court, thats a different story. Just say that u had just been for a run and you didn't stretch properly afterwards. U got a MASSIVE cramp in your leg as u accelerated and couldn't move your leg. Stress how scared u were and stuff.


luck, peace, and 20b's

ranger306ci

My Virginia story:
I got busted in Newport News driving into the shipyard parking lot. There is a section of road that everyone speeds on. I got picked out of the crowd.
52 in a 25. I honestly wasn't looking at my speedo, so I had to take the cops word for it.
I got cited for 2 counts of reckless driving: 1 for 20 over, and 1 for doubling the limit.
I went to court with no lawyer, as an out of stater( I was in the Navy at the time)
The judge was handing out jailtime that day for 1st offences on one count, and here I am, sitting with two.
I was scared!
My number came up, I went before the big man, and plead not guilty in the loudest squeak that I could muster.
The judge looked at my scrawny ***, and said it was my lucky day..............the cop lost my paperwork!
I learned my lesson in VA..........they don't F*** around with you!
Go to court, take your beatings, and remember "THEY WILL CHEW YOUR ***, BUT THEY WILL NOT EAT THROUGH YOU **** TO GET TO YOUR HEART!"
(My dad told me that once)
Life will suck for some time, but you will get through it. Just pray for no felony inditements!
Ken