cosmicbang

"It's not as dangerous..."? Think about it: Since you drove past the cop without seeing him, what if he had been a deer that ran out in front of you? Driving 130, 120 or 108 mph on rt. 29 is very dangerous for anyone, and at 16 yrs old with less experience is asking for disaster. It's like Russian Roulette, and many unexpected things can happen which are compounded by higher speeds. No matter how good a driver you are, you have no control over the actions of other drivers and animals, and what might fall off the back of a truck into the road. It ain't the autobahn. Other drivers are not expecting another car to be going that fast and are not prepared to get out of your way. People pull out of driveways without looking, slow down almost to a stop before turning off, etc. On two lane roads you could come over a hill and find someone passing another car on a solid line. There are other idiots on the road, along with tractors and farm machinery, not to mention all the deer and other wildlife that run out at any time. And what if you ran over something and blew a tire?

Another thing to think about is any accident you have at that speed is almost automatically considered your fault no matter what the other driver did. You could get sued for millions of dollars by some idiot who pulled out in front of you. That could follow you for the rest of your life.

The cop was actually lenient to let you go. He could have taken you in and had your car towed. If it was over the border in Bedford county you would still be sitting in jail. Consider yourself lucky it was only a ticket and you didn't kill someone. Sorry for the lecture, but please think about it. One reckless driving ticket will not ruin you life, and tickets eventually drop off your record in a couple years. BTW in Va there is no law to prevent a cop from sitting out-of-site, or even hiding.

Lt. Dan

You're a dumbass... You got a ticket for double the speed limit in VA. My wager:

You're going to Jail.
You're license is going to be suspended for 90 days.
You're going to get a 500 dollar fine.

Where's Darwin when you need him?

Dan

bouis

My wager:

You're not going to jail.
You lose your driving privliges in VA, then a few days later in NC, probably until you turn 18.
You get about $1200 in fines.

jimmdog

Allright your telling me none of you have ever driven your cars to the limit on public highways, RIGHT! Your all Full of ****! Im shure as soon as the handcuffs were on we knew He fucked up.He Is looking for help not busted *****
My advice take the online driving school vadmv.com
Get a Lawyer only one I know near Lynchburg is James Kent in Hurt Va.
Sell the car buy something slow like a truck to tow your track car to VIR
Good Luck

Dom

He fucked up and he knows it. He will pay for it, but I don't see any reason why he should pay more than is fair. That is why he needs a lawyer, to control the damage he's about to incur.

All I have to say is good luck to you, and glad it's not me!

capri93

Well i wouldn't bet on any sure thing but in my experence, dubbling the limit means your f*&ked. but recless driving if thats what this fine is for you will get off with a lesser sentence. Recless driving is the speeding version of disobaying a traffic control device instead of running a stop sign or light. but figure on 6 points and lose of lisence at least 6months or at least the loose of your licence in VA. or depending on the cooperation between the 2 states on this your being a minor only 16? your jr licence is only valid in nc you could be in real **** driving with an invalid licence, speeding(doubleing the limit), recless indangerment. Best plan: lawyer, if your a religious person pray for a lenient judge and plan for the worst, get some cash together set up transportation.

In PA i know that either 35 over or doubling the speed limit leads to a high speed trial, loss of licence for 6-12 months and fines, cuffed taken to jail, and car towed.

Hadoken

I know you're going to hate me and probably alot of others, but hand over your license, get rid of your car then wait 5-10 years while your brain grows. You live way to close to me to be driving like that. (you'll probably have to sell your car just to foot the tickets/lawyer unless your dad pays for it...then he should get his money back by using your tail as a stress reliever)
With my stage 1 license I wouldn't even make a turn without using my turn signal, much less go over 100mph.
Oh yeah, your speedometers broke...those trees were blurred into one big green blob but I thought I was going 55mph I swear! They should take your license for trying to feed the court that bullshit.
" the highest speed limit in Virginia is 55mph so it might not be as dangerous as you think." What do you mean? I've been to Virginia tons of times, I've seen 65 and 70mph zones?

therotaryrocket

OK,OK,OK i get it, on the way home I went a nice safe pace and it was still pretty fun. I understand all of the dangers and you all have good criticism. I really want to get out of this as easily as possible...i'm sure i'll pay for my own stupidity, so i expect a lot more hours of work and so sad as my grades will likely drop. He stopped me outside that danville county (bedford??) line, but thats where i'll be going. On the way back I noticed where he could have been hiding way up inside this acceleration ramp, I turned around to check every accel ramp but his car was dark blue and I was going to fast to really see for sure. All I want is some help to get a light charge of some sort, I did some searching and found that twice the speedlimit can be driving with the intent to kill ($2500 fine, 6 months in jail, 1 year of no liscense). I also found that a good lawyer can turn reckless driving into "straight speeding", theres also 13 different types of reckless driving. I certaintly hope that it won't ruin my future, isn't that why they have easier 1st time offenses and plea bargains?

bouis

It won't ruin your future, but the immediate future sucks. I'd be surprised if you keep your driving privliges. Also, since you're out of state they'll take you for every penny you're worth.

Pele

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I don't think your future is ruined. I just think it's gonna be a heavy fine... I got a ticket in Maryland for 74 or 84 (I forget which) in a 55 that Virginia doesn't know about.

Felgar

Ok I agree Jimdog. Look we've all been speeding at times. Who here DOESN'T know there top speed? Come on guys.

Here's my advice for the immediate: Tell the lawyer that you'll pay whatever fine you have to and do community service if that will help - just so long as you can keep your license. If the judge sees that you're VERY sorry, and are willing to pay for what you've done, and that you have learned your lesson, then he MAY let you keep your license. Maybe prospose going down to 1 demerit point or a probation period where 1 more violation of any kind you lose your license. BUT if the judge thinks you're trying to weasel out of it he'll teach you a lesson with revoking your license and maybe jail time - so DON'T even think about some crap story about speedo, etc. The judge must believe that the lesson is already learned. The driving lessons are a good idea too.

In summary I'd tell the lawyer that: You'll pay the full fine, do some community service, go on probation (if you have it there) and take a driving course IF you don't go to jail and don't lose your license. You gotta come off sorry though (and you honestly should be sorry)...

For the future: KNOW THE SPEEDING LAWS. Here in Alberta 51 km over is the point at which you see a judge and can lose your license. So I'm very careful never to break that except in very good conditions and with no traffic and great visibility. Even then I've probably done it 3-4 times in 6 years. Having said all that you REALLY must drive careful. I honestly feel that I put safety first and my speed is determined accordingly. It's your life and the lives of others you're playing with so be VERY careful. Let's face it we have vehicles that we speed in but safety must come first.

EfiniGirl

I'm sorry that you're in this situation right now, but you certainly deserved it. What the hell were you thinking?!? Twice the speed limit at age 16 out of state? I hope this is a good lesson to you. If my younger brother did something like this, I would seriously kick his ***.

The advice that most of the guys seem to be giving you seems to be helpful so try your best to do your time. This should get off your record in about 3 years, but until then, you'll be paying the consequences...

kiker14

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pray a lot. no joke. one of my friends had a court date in MD after being clocked 110 in a 65 (on rt. 50 to the beach, i think) anyway, the cop didn't show, so he got off 100%. i wouldn't count on it, but it is a possibility that nobody else here has mentioned.

oh, and SLOW DOWN

you wanna go fast, go to the track. for the record, i don't know my top speed. in fact, i've never gone over 90. (when the flow of traffic was already 85 going down rt 83 in PA)

YapaKanichi

ok my advise to you, don't get lawyer. Getting a lawyer is like talking to yor parents with intent on an argument. *** that ****. go in there and take some damn responsibility.
Another thing, I don't know the top speed of my car. Hell just driving on city streets is hard enough for me.
Stop being a damn baby go in there and admit what happened. Don't try to act all cool. And if I ever see you on the streets realize I will pull over and wait an hour for you to go away from me. I got ran off the road toda by one of you little buggas. I almost caught up to the guy that did it when my work came up and I had t turn in. I was ready to kill him.
120mph......you're just another dumbass like all the other people out there that think they're open wheel champion drivers.


Terds..

Pele

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Damnit. Thisis what I get for leaving the computer while editing a post...

EDITED VERSION FROM ABOVE:
I don't think your future is ruined. I just think it's gonna be a heavy fine... I got a ticket in Maryland for 74 or 84 (I forget which) in a 55 that Virginia doesn't know about. But yours is a bit more severe.

How did you and the cop act when you were pulled over? Did you pull over immediately? Was the cop in a bad mood? Were you scared? remoseful? had a bad attitude? Able to produce the license, reg, proof of insurance quickly? Was your passenger shifty or suspicious? Seatbelts?

Everything factors in... The dead sticker might notta been mentioned at the arrest site, but it may come up in court. If you're cooperative, cops tend to look upon that.

It's up to the District's Prosecutor and Attourney to change charges. They will probably consult with the officer, and will have access to the officer's notes from the arrest location. They will deicde based on that... Ask me how I know...

It don't look good man. Best of luck to you though.

Felgar

Pele has a good point about the prosecutor... At least up here the judge will pretty much listen to whatever the prosecutor says, who in turn will likely be taking advice from the cop. So I still maintain my advice to get a lawyer to explain to both of them how sorry you are and how you'll do anything to keep your license and stay out jail. The lawyer can also get the scoop from them what they intend to push for in terms of consequences without them jumping to an early conclusion that you're just trying to get off, and you can base your "deal" off that. Maybe they'll only go for a fine in the first place but I doubt it. (I really think the community service offer might help a lot too.)

Also if you have a chance to speak to the cop thank him for keeping you and others in the community safe by stopping you. Say that after talking to fellow auto enthusiasts and your parents you realize how big of a mistake it was. And finally I don't know how your parents are handling it but maybe you can convince them that if the judge lets you keep your license then you can keep your car, if that's a factor.

Bob Holton

You could try to plead insanity !!!!!!!!!! ten over in Jackson Mi costs 110.00 ask me. You gotta be outa you mind boy !!!!!!

dblboinger

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Been there...done that. Well similar anyway. Spent 10 days in jail, fined $450 and lost my driving privileges in VA for 1 year. When my home state found out I lost my license there for 3 years. I was 20 at the time. I was from out of state too, seemed to make things worse in my opinion. Hold on to your hat cause I think you're in for a ride.

dblboinger

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Oh yeah, I was doing 110 in a 55.

sweetege

Ok guys chill man, i mean I know the fastest i've been is 120 and it was dangerous but it was on the interstate and i am not joking when I say everybody was soing 95 to 100 so it was the perfect time in my opinion to test my top speed. I only went 20 over everybody else, yes it was stupid but I have'nt done anyhting like it since i hardely ever come near 100 or 90 for that matter. I'm more of a corner person. I'm 17 and yes I am stupid in some aspects but only when i am the only one in the car, you can ask my friends they will say i take teh corners fast but they will also say that i am the most careful driver that they have ever riden with. I think i get it from my parents they're really good drivers at like 50 & 55 yrs old. oh yea the speed limit was 70.

DarkCyDE

Still waiting to hear back from my brother, left msg with him

wae

Ouch.. That's pretty harsh. If it's any consolation, it took something like that to teach me my lesson, too. Nearly brand new Saturn, PA, I-80, when the speed limit was STILL 55 MPH. I was flying across the state, tripped the 110mph rev-limter a couple times. I had "slowed down" to "only" about 95-100 when I saw a cop sitting in the median as I blew past a grove of trees. Pulled it over immediately, I mean I was on the right side of the road with the motor off before he even made it off the median onto the highway. Came up and told me that he was looking for me since all the truckers had been talking about "that Kentucky boy in a blue Saturn flying down the road". I think I got pretty lucky, actually, since he told me that he'd cut the speed reading down to 90, even though he clocked me at 97, so he wouldn't have to arrest me. I thanked him profusely and mailed my money order to the state for around $250, give or take. Now, I won't say I haven't gotten speeding tickets since then (out of state speeding tickets get thrown away by Kentucky, so no points and the insurance company never knows), but I have managed to keep from doing anything that could wind me up in jail.

As to your dillemna, though: What did he give you a ticket for, and is the court appearance mandatory? I'm not very familiar with Virginia's laws, but if he wrote a speeding ticket, and you can cop to it by mail, I'd recccomend doing so. Your goal here is to turn it into a problem that money can solve, and it might be a heckuva fine, but loosing money is better than getting three square a day and a toilet in your bedroom, right? In KY, for minors, before they yank your license you get a hearing (at least... you used to about 10 years ago). So, if your home state finds out about that ticket and wants to pull you, and you have an opportunity to go to that hearing, do so! Take parents -- not friends -- and have your parents attest to your ability to learn your lesson. You might be able to skate out of there with all but one of your points used up, but as long as you keep your nose clean (and, beleive me, that will be a skill that you will love the rest of your life!), you keep your license. If you have to go to court, find out what offense you're being brought up on. If you can afford a lawyer, get one. If you can't, then you're going to have to try to plea bargain, if the prosecuter will, or plead guilty with a very convincing story to the judge about how you really have learned.

Hope this turn out for you.. And I hope you manage to keep your nose clean! =)

therotaryrocket

Thank you guys so much for sharing your stories, opinions, and ideas. I talked with Ryan Turpine, a lawyer of Virginia, who said he would charge me $750 dollars to keep me out of jail and *try* to keep my liscense. So I think I have to sell my car now, my friend offered me $400 dollars, i've got like $250 saved, and i'm still working. I really am sorry, so I wouldn't mind doing any of the community service, driving schools or anything else the judge wants for me. I plan on my mom and my dad to come with me to court, i'll tell my story about how I learned my lesson and my mom can say she noticed how slowly my gas needle goes down now. With the officer...I didn't argue at all, I was scared especially with the cuffs on, and my passenger (best friend) also seemed scared. He said he paced me at 115mph but first he said he clocked me at 108mph 2 miles back, and paced me to 115. If he was stopped and I passed him going 108 do you think 2 miles sounds right for the first time for me to stop, I stopped as soon as he popped up over the hill. He was really agressive with me at first and searched me and stuff, but later he seemed like he backed down some. Overall I was trying to be respectful and scared at the same time. I couldn't pull a tear at the time but the night after that happened the realism slapped me in the face and I seriously cryed alot. The lawyer asked me if it was officer Kinsley that stopped me before I mentioned which cop it was which is true. He said he could talk to Officer Kinsley, the lawyer said most of the case rests on what the officer says. This sucks for me, no RX-7 and when I do get another car it will likely be a Toyota Tercel, Geo Storm, or like a Honda Civic or some other fuel efficient car. Wish me luck, this post has been my main source of information. Thanks again.

CarlRx7

id say you'd be ok saying your throttle was stuck or your speedo doesn't work. UNTIL the court finds your posting about going 120-130. how'd ya know how fast you where going with no speedo.

carl.

p.s. you must of been close to 6k-7k to go that fast in 5th.i know im at 4k in 5th going 80, w/ 4.09 gears

HadaGSL-SE

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Id be interested in your car if its going for $400

are you still in VA or back in NC?