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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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Arrow Turbo Swap prices?

How much is it for a Turbo II swap, with everything, the engine and all of it's components, tranny, labor. Completely done. Are there people with special offers? How much have you guys gotten your swaps for? And are you completely satisfied? Who did your work?

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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Damn, time to start saving

But seriously, the engine is about 1,000...plus labor, add like what...500? so about 1500 just the engine...how about tranny n' stuff? Any helpful comments will help
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:34 AM
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its alot cheaper if you do it yourself. I have everything for mine including a rebuilt streetported engine and a haltech E6K for under 4 thousand
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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labor to for someelse to put a TII engine in your FB will be alot more than 500$. The best(cheapest) way to get all of the parts that you need is to pick up a TII from a junkyard. That will set you up with most of the parts that you need. Your going to need to custom mount the tranny and either swap the front plate or make custom motor mounts. Also the stock mount intercooler wont fit under the hood so your either going to have to get some kind of cowl hood or something or just get a front mount.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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CHrist....4 thousand? Wtf...

You got
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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The rebuild and the port was alittle over 2K and thats cheap. Then the Haltech was 800. I got an 88TII from a junkyard that was supposedly running for 600$. The a custom driveshaft fro 200. Then other unnecesary parts like FMIC, Boost controller, BOV, ACT clutch, Flywheel.

Ill post somemore in the morning but i got to go

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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A clutch, flywheel and boost controller is as essential as the turbo itself...but I see where you're going.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 01:39 AM
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engine around 1000 for one that runs, then tranny around 250 maybe. custom drive shaft, then u gotta modify the tranny selecter, fuel pump like 100 bux for a decent one then some other stuff thats gonna cost money, like mounts and stuff
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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my total cost was just under $15000

I did all the work myself, except for the custom driveshaft and exhaust, which total about $1000 together

with labor, I would almost double that
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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use the stock tranny and driveshaft to start with and save yourself some cash for the time being.
my 12a tranny held up to many 12 second passes and general abuse i put it through.

you can pick up an s4 motor for around 600 bucks.
s5 motors are 800 and up usually.

cost depends on how far you want to go. efi is expensive.
i have well over 6k into my cars engine and supporting components.

do a blow thru like robert does you just need a weber upper and a 45-50mm carb and a box to make it work.
plus regulator and fuel pump.....
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboFB
CHrist....4 thousand? Wtf...

You got
I got owned? How?
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 04:29 PM
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You get what you pay for. $4000 is not bad depending upon what you have installed. If you do a good job and use quality parts it will cost more. Right now I'm at about $4k also, could have done it for $3k but I want more speed and a quality swap.

Screw up on a turbo and you'll end up blowing your engine so add another $2k to get it fixed. There are many options and you need to evaluate everything that's out there and come up with your own goals of hp and quality. I went the cheapest route I could and still have a decent build that has good power.

Here's a few more must haves along with some prices:

$125 Fuel pump with fittings
$150 Fuel pressure regulator with fittings and hoses
$800 FMIC with aluminum mandrel bent tubing (Don't go over 5 psi without it)
$750 Downpipe, turbo cat or presilencer, RB muffler
$2200 rebuilt T2 engine and tranny
$100-300 manual or electronic boost control--your pick (only 5 psi without one)

Right there is over 4k and I didn't even get into EFI stuff--that's the mininum I'd go for with a T2 engine that can push 12-14 psi boost on the stock turbo. Carbs are cheaper, but I have no direct experience with blow thrus, so search around if you want to go that route.

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p.s. Not including any labor, DIY

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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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You get what you pay for. Low Money, Low Power. Big Money = Bigger Power.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryrudy
I got owned? How?

Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. I didn't know swaps would cost so much. But now that I have a run-down I know how much they can run for. I guess i'm the one who's





It's alll good.
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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How much did you think it was, $500???


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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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No...I actually thought it was around 2,000. Robert at Rotary Shack does setups around that area. But they don't exactly have everything listed above....*shrug* I just want to start with something small and get my car onto the road until I get more money and add more amongst the coming months...
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Old Dec 3, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 82streetracer
my total cost was just under $15000

I did all the work myself, except for the custom driveshaft and exhaust, which total about $1000 together

with labor, I would almost double that

Lets hope you made a mistake, 15,000? What you put in there, a T88 with a 13B-REW?
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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I've got 12,000 into my car so far, and I'm still sporting the stock tranny, driveshaft, and rear end. It sounds to me like you need to do some more research. I know, i know, theres plenty of people that have done turbo setups for next to nothing. But if you do things right, use quality parts, and replace all the "weak links" along the way, then it's very easy for the money to pile up quickly.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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Listen...I'm tired of being judged like I don't know ****. I just asked how much a turboII swap would cost. With everything. Kind of like a OEM install? Thank you for your much appreciated information. I was thinking around 3-4k for a OEM install. If not around 5k.
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This is not including FMIC, and other peripheral items.
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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Rough estimates of a turbo swap:

$3-4k = 200-250 hp
$5-6k = 250-300 hp
$7-8k = 300-350 hp
$8k+ = >350hp

More power means better quality and more systems that need improvement--That's really all there is to it. Again this is EFI only, don't know about carb setup.

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theres realy no such thing as an OEM install. If you use the stock engine and tranny from an S4 you still need alot of aftermarket parts. your stock fuel pump cant support it. You also need all of the sensors as well as the radiator, intercooler, ect. If you plan on using the stock ecu and wiring harness then the wiring is going to be a pain in the ***. its alot esier to go aftermarket on alot of the parts but it costs money.

i personally think there is no point in doing a TII swap unless your going to do the work yourself, have "the hookup", or have a shitload of money to blow
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboFB
Listen...I'm tired of being judged like I don't know ****. I just asked how much a turboII swap would cost. With everything. Kind of like a OEM install? Thank you for your much appreciated information. I was thinking around 3-4k for a OEM install. If not around 5k.
If thats what you thought then you wouldnt have told me i was "owned" when i said i have spent around 4K
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rotaryrudy
theres realy no such thing as an OEM install. If you use the stock engine and tranny from an S4 you still need alot of aftermarket parts. your stock fuel pump cant support it. You also need all of the sensors as well as the radiator, intercooler, ect. If you plan on using the stock ecu and wiring harness then the wiring is going to be a pain in the ***. its alot esier to go aftermarket on alot of the parts but it costs money.

i personally think there is no point in doing a TII swap unless your going to do the work yourself, have "the hookup", or have a shitload of money to blow
rotaryrudy is mostly right. If you'd look at the FAQ you'll find all the wiring info to do almost an OEM install. For an EFI setup, the OEM install will be the cheapest, but alot of work doing the wiring. I've posted all the wiring diagrams you need to do the job. Aside from a carb, this is the cheapest it gets.

But the first gen radiator will do fine for an OEM type swap. I'd suspect it's good up to about 300 hp--maybe more.

Again, if you want more HP, you'll spend more money.
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