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Old 05-01-06, 07:20 AM
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Okay, so this drifting thing is supposed to be awesome. I dont know, I am really old school, but I am up to try anything. Now I can kick the *** loose as it is when I am in the corners, but I have 205's on it. So what I am asking is this, to attempt a drift should I, throw skinnier tires on it? and would it just be a good idea to wait and put my GSL rear end underneath. Or should I go ahead and try to break this diff
I've got all of the usual chassis stiffing goodies, and I am fairly sure of my own ability. Hell I dont even know if I am going to do it. I just want to see what all the hype is about. To me it looks like rally racing or dirt track racing on pavement....

What is your take on drifting? Ive always thought that our cars were designed to keep traction, so why would you want to throw your car into a suicide slide? But Id imagine its the thrill and the adreniline rush that makes it popular. By no means am I going to turn my FB into a drift car, but I tend to try anything once...

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If you don't have an LSD weld the bitch.
Old 05-01-06, 08:45 AM
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Yeah, good idea, welding the rear will help you break it loose and wont wear out your LSD. Hard tires on the rear will help you break the rear free also.

Drift is about control and style more than speed, there are a couple of guys on here drifting Fbs now.
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This guy seems to be doing the most.

Link: https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/drifting-video-535339/
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Old 05-01-06, 09:59 AM
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^^ Hey, hey, hey... I am not jumping on the bandwagon here. Looking at it I probaby wont do it. I have never beleived in welding anything in the diff, and I am not buying tires for this. I was just wondering if the FB could do it with minor mods. I can kick the tires loose pretty easily in the corners and I might be able to do it.

I prefer traction anyway, I have to feel in control of what I am doing, this was just an idea I wanted to throw out there....

Besides you cant tell me it wouldnt be fun. God knows I used to do it when I owned a RWD DD, of course that was in dirt
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I am in full agreement, I am a curcuit guy from way back, and somewhat successfully I might add, but it would teach car control, and its got to be fun.

As for welding a center, its easy to swap a welded center in and out as needed, they do work unless you're going slowly, then you get major understeer.
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^ Yeah, but I have a limited parts inventory. So I tend to be VERY careful as not to screw up what I do have. If I could source an extra diff, I might do it. That way if I screw up its not such a big deal.

I have always wanted to do some form of racing... But I dont have the cash flow to maintane it, I never tried to get sponsers but I would imagine driving an FB wouldnt be appealing to alot of them nowadays.

But yeah it would definately give you an edge in any kind of racing to know ALL the different forms and styles of doing it. You can laugh all you want to at drifting, but its been around forever. Hell, ask Carol Shelby, he drifted muscle cars in the sixties!! But thats mostly because there is no safer way to get that overblown sedan with a truck engine around a corner

But I am just trying to get some ideas out in the open here, thats all.
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I've been interested in giving this a shot also Chris, any form of motorsports is fun and interesting, closed minds destroy creativity.
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Hey when you get those body kits and center consoles done let me know, I would definately make a trip to check that out. And let me know when you guys find a truck, and if you cant come get it I might just hold onto it until I can get it running.
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All is Ok, my guy's uncle got beaten up by a gang of asians over the weekend, he's 6'4" and 280 and they destroyed his face, its held us up for a couple of days but still should be good for first half od this week.
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Sorry to hear about that, I hope everything works out okay... I hope to hear from you soon.

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wtf are you guys talking about now?

From driftin to beaten up asians? huh!?!?

Am I going to get jumped by the Japanese-Austrailian Mafia if I come with Pete sometime, Steve?
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look for the video "drift bible", it is put out by Best Motoring. The drift King himself Keiichi Tsuchiya, shows the basics of drifting and what its all about. Its not about power, or speed its about balance and car control.
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would you weld a diff.(what part do you weld anyways?) if you had a limited slip installed? How would that affect a daily driver? i think it sounds cool too, mildly modded first gens aren't dragsters anyways so autocrossing(and drifting ; ) is where they belong i think...straight aways would get boring anyways, twistie racing is more complicated i think, just me tho i guess
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Absolutely do not weld an LSD that would be a huge waste. In a DD it would make your rear end squeal several times every time you turn at slow speed, your inside wheel has to turn as much as your outside wheel and subsequently on a turn bulds pressure and squeeks as the tire slips to catch up.

Works great for drag to get max power down, not good for autocrossing but can work on some fast flowing tracks

Tranquil, your safe in lil ole Convoy, this happened in Ft Wayne.
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I had a welded diff in one of my old 240sx's and it didnt chirp all that much, the only time was very tight turning, like parking.
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Yep. I have a welded diff in my S2 and I absolutely love it. It's only annoying when parking and very low speeds. The only thing you notice when cornering is some initial understeer. Other then that the increased traction and predictability more then make up for it.
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