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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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Tranny Gear Oil...What Kind?

Need to make another run to the auto parts store tomorrwow to finish buying everything I need for my engine swap, and Im going to get some tranny fluid and rear end fluid, what kind should I get? Any suggestions? Any particular weight? Thanks.

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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:34 PM
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I use only Mobil 1 in the tranny and rear end. Shifts much smoother. Just make sure its synthetic and meets GL-5 requirements.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Thanks, anyone else?

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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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synthetic. mobil, redline, or purple.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Actually, should be GL4 requirements

Do a search, some good threads on this subject. Some synthetics (like Mobile One) raise hell with the syncros's in the tranny. Something about some Synthetics being TO slippery. As a result, the syncro's wear out pre-maturely. I know as, sadly, been there done that.

Key point, stay away from GL5 if going with standard gear lube as the sulfates in GL5 is the bad guy. Look for GL4.

Synthetics...............the concensis is either Red Line or Royal Purple.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:19 PM
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What grade?
80-90
75-90
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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it depends. different oils are slippery and others not within the same brand. there was a big post on the mobil one synths and redline synths on impreza.com forum when i had wrx. so its not really just based on brand but also on which type of synth from that brand. which you think you'll need is based on your driving habits. hard shifter, you need a grippier oil for you synchros. don't shift hard but want better gas mileage go with the slippy stuff.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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I just want something that would work well for average daily driving, but would help when I wanna get on it and go, so I guess Ill try and find something...So what standard should I get? Y'all got me all backwards and ****...I had no idea that there was that much crap out there.

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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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http://www.redlineoil.com/products.htm

gear lubricants, mobil only has one but redline will show you what to look for.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 09:54 PM
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So like 75-90 for me? This all doesnt make that much sense to me...
75W90 GEAR OIL - recommended for most street driven and racing differentials. Excellent performance in conventional and limited-slip units. Also for limited-slip manual transaxles which require a 90 WT oil. Contains limited-slip friction modifiers.
75W90 Gear Oil - the preferred product in nearly all car and light truck differentials, both conventional and limited-slip. 75W90 is preferred for most racing applications. It contains friction modifier which is recommended for limited-slip units. 75W90 Gear Oil can be used in many transmissions and transaxles; however, other Red Line lubricants have better frictional properties for rapid synchronization. Exceeds API GL-5.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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what's got you? i'm not sure what your baffled on.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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GM CORVETTE SYNCRO-MESH!!!!!!!!!!

It is the BEST...
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Old May 14, 2002 | 10:30 PM
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what's got you? i'm not sure what your baffled on.
Well, whats the difference, I mean, why make multiple oils? Why cant one just work for everything?

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Old May 14, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Oh yeah, and anyone know how much Im gonna need for both of them?

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Old May 14, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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why make different cars? one would move us where we need to go. same reason. we all use them for different purposes. my car is for sport driving and autox. so i want an oil that is synchro hkepful and screw the bearings and gas mileage. if this is your daily and your not that hard go with regular. the way you're talking i would say the 75w90 or mt90.
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Old May 14, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Thanks, but how much should I buy to fill both the tranny and rear end? I dont have my manual at this house...Someone please let me know...Im going tomorrow after work and Im not gonna be able to come home and check for a response before I go, so I kinda would like to know tonight...Thanks.

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PS - I dont wanna sound pushy, so if it sounds that way, its not supposed to.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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Ok, well I managed to find some old Mazda spec books, and what do you know...The capacities and types recommended are both in there. So, for anyone curious, it says:

Manual transmission:

Lubricant Capacity: 2.0 liters (2.1 US quarts, 1.8 Imp. quarts)
Lubricant Type:
Above 18 degrees C (0 degrees F) - A.P.I. Service GL-4 or GL-5 SAE90
Below 18 degrees C (0 degrees F) - A.P.I. Service GL-4 or GL-5 SAE80W

Automatic Transmission:

Fluid Capacity: 7.5 Liters (7.9 US quarts, 6.6 Imp. quarts)
Fluid Type: M2C33F (Type F)

Rear Axle:

Lubricant Capacity:
Standard Diff:
1.2 liters (1.3 US quarts, 1.1 Imp quarts)
Limited Slip Diff: 1.6 liters (1.7 US quarts, 1.4 Imp quarts)
Lubricant Type:
Standard Diff:

Above 18 degrees C (0 degrees F) - A.P.I. Service GL-5 SAE90
Below 18 degrees C (0 degrees F) - A.P.I. Service GL-5 SAE80W
Limited Slip Diff: A.P.I. Service GL-5 SAE90 (Special Lubricant For Limited Slip Differentials)

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Old May 15, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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sorry man. i went to bed so i didn't see this till i was already at work. if you're doing it yourself, make sure and take the fill plug out first so you're not dead in the water if its stuck and you already drained.
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Old May 15, 2002 | 03:55 PM
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Good tip, Jeremy. Thanks. I can see how that would suck...lol.

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Old May 15, 2002 | 04:33 PM
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mazda says use 85w(GL4)...I finally went with redline and it was 7.95/qt. I t is 75w90 weight. I hope I got the right stuff....it was all redline had anyway. same with the tranny oil. went with redline MTL....Good luck
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Old May 15, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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if a gear falls out it was a bad choice, lol.
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