alright fellas, i need some help with my swap. some thing is binding up on the driveline when i have the car on the ground, if i try to start the car all i hear is the starter clicking. if the car is on jackstands it will try and turn over but if its on the ground it won't. any help much appreciated.

Loi

 

Take it out of gear

Nah man, I dont know...The only thing I can think of that would change when its on the ground is the wheels are on the ground, so unless the tranny is stuck engaged or something, and causing the wheels to put resistance on the engine and not let it turn over, I dont know... Sorry I couldnt be of more help...

~T.J.

PS - Welcome to the forum, Im sure someone here can help ya

 

i thought that could be a possibility but when i try and crank it when she's on jackstands it doesn't spin the wheels or anything.

Loi

 

Can you turn the engine over by hand?

 

yes, i can turn it over by hand.

Loi

 

Even when its on the ground?

~T.J.

 

It would help if you told us what year and model car you have, ditto for engine and tranny. I assume it's a manual also--right. Also any mods could be helpful--like the clutch, flywheel.

For a manual tranny in neutral, the driveshaft should be able to spin by hand. Basically anytime your foot is off the clutch, the clutch is engaged. I'd make sure you can put it in neutral first, and you can spin the driveshaft by hand when on jacks.

Need to know engine/tranny info to help you anymore.

Could also have something to do with your starter. Maybe it's weak and going out, Maybe the ground isn't real good. Make sure all the electrical connections are clean and tight.

I believe T2 engines are easier to crank over cause of the lower compression ratio. And yea, you should be able to turn the engine by hand.

Scott

 

i've got an '85 GSL-SE, 87 TII engine, using stock tranny with an s4 n/a flywheel with a centerforce stage 2 clutch. reman starter from autozone, i'll try and turn the driveshaft over by hand later tonight. gotta go do stuff for chinese new year first...

Loi

 

I don't think you can use an n/a flywheel on a tII, the balance is different. What model is the starter for?

-Marques

 

Mazdatrix is only listing one counterweight for the 86-88 13B, so a NA flywheel on TII should work fine I guess.

 

I had someone work on a VW and it did the same thing as you describe.

What happed was he left the bolts to the transmission loose and when the car was let down the transmission binded on the flywheel.

And Rotormotordriver has a good point; WIll it tunrn over on the ground by hand?

 

yes it turns over by hand when its on the ground.

Loi

 

the starter is for the stock GSL-SE tranny as well.

Loi

 

I've seen on the board several times that when you use an SE tranny with a T2 engine you need to use an aftermarket flywheel (for an SE) with a rear counterweight (for a T2). I'm also not sure how well the ring gear on the S4 flywheel will mate up with the SE starter--I know for a T2 it is in a slightly different position..

Maybe it can be done but something you will need to check out.

Scott