Techno Toy Tuning parts interest?
03-11-13, 10:53 PM
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Techno Toy Tuning parts interest?
https://technotoytuning.com/mazda/fb
https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/ae86
They only make a few things for an FB as of right now. Like roll center adjusters and rear coilovers(there is a thread on the forum about this being done and is safe using Camaro coilovers), basically the same ones as the AE86.
Many of you know how close the suspension design is on the AE86 to the FB. They have a whole slew of parts for the AE86, that could be produced for ours cars. Would be really nice since there are only a handful of aftermarket parts venders fo the FB.
So I sent them an email stating that and got a pretty positive reply.
I was just wondering if yall had looked at making new products for the Rx7 FB. The suspension for the FB and the Toyota AE86 are pretty close in design. Stuff like the links, tie rods, tension rod, lower control arms, knuckles are all pretty close in design. Even make just some rear adjustable coil spring spacer, or some camber plates. Us first gen guys are limited in places and parts, I know you could get on rx7club.com and get some feedback. Thanks for your time, Stephen Owen
Reply I got.
Stephen,
I haven't had many requests for the FB parts. Doesn't seem like that many of them are left anymore.
I'm game to make parts though. You get 10 guys together that want a part, and I'm down to make it.
Gia & Gabriel Tyler
www.TechnoToyTuning.com
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They only make a few things for an FB as of right now. Like roll center adjusters and rear coilovers(there is a thread on the forum about this being done and is safe using Camaro coilovers), basically the same ones as the AE86.
Many of you know how close the suspension design is on the AE86 to the FB. They have a whole slew of parts for the AE86, that could be produced for ours cars. Would be really nice since there are only a handful of aftermarket parts venders fo the FB.
So I sent them an email stating that and got a pretty positive reply.
I was just wondering if yall had looked at making new products for the Rx7 FB. The suspension for the FB and the Toyota AE86 are pretty close in design. Stuff like the links, tie rods, tension rod, lower control arms, knuckles are all pretty close in design. Even make just some rear adjustable coil spring spacer, or some camber plates. Us first gen guys are limited in places and parts, I know you could get on rx7club.com and get some feedback. Thanks for your time, Stephen Owen
Reply I got.
Stephen,
I haven't had many requests for the FB parts. Doesn't seem like that many of them are left anymore.
I'm game to make parts though. You get 10 guys together that want a part, and I'm down to make it.
Gia & Gabriel Tyler
www.TechnoToyTuning.com
03-12-13, 10:42 AM
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I've had my eye on them for a while now for their Roll Center Adjusters - reasonably priced and my MR2 buddy has really talked up the quality of their products.
I need to focus on finishing up my current projects right now, so I'm not quite in the market yet for suspension. However when I am, I will be signing up on the list.
I need to focus on finishing up my current projects right now, so I'm not quite in the market yet for suspension. However when I am, I will be signing up on the list.
03-12-13, 11:20 AM
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i think actually that the AE86 and SA are close enough that they probably could make most of the links with stuff they have, its just different lengths.
if they need a car to measure, i think they are local to me
if they need a car to measure, i think they are local to me
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03-14-13, 12:34 PM
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I would like to see a big brake kit meant for 4 bolt hubs 4x110 and 4x114.3. Maybe front bolt in coils. Front control arms. Panhard hard bar for sure. There is probably more I'm not thinking of.
03-14-13, 12:38 PM
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Definitely panhard. Full front coils, strut and all. Big brakes would be amazing for 4x110 and 114. basically everything seattle-se said. Control arms would be cool. Camber plates too.
03-15-13, 12:32 PM
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Alright, I'll step in now 
What I sent to them in my first email:
Their reply:
My reply:
Their reply:
So we are making progress!
I've offered to ship out a spare FB shifter to them, as well as my old FB shocks for measurements and start to R&D. I'll be taking some pics and measurements for the Panhard setup as well.
Super stoked about this - they've been nothing but courteous and quick, I hope that they can develop some parts for us!
What I sent to them in my first email:
Originally Posted by lindahlish
Hey there,
I'm a 1st gen RX-7 owner and you've been brought to my attention through the forum RX-7club.com and I thought I'd contact you and ask a quick question or two.
1. Would you consider R&D on a Panhard bar or tri-link setup for the first gen RX-7's?
The most common setup was discontinued and I'm looking for a replacement. Of course, building one myself is possible but I thought that since you guys have the knowledge and expertise you could market the setup.
2. Front coil over conversion kit?
I see you offer a rear conversion kit (which is AWESOME) and you could consider building a front set and selling one big kit. Just something for thought.
3. Short shifter
Under the AE86 section you have both the short and long throw shifters - which would be awesome to have available towards the first gen RX-7's.
There is a post going on the forum with your info so you may be asked questions similar to these for a while, it can be viewed here:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...8/techno-toy-t...
I thought I'd contact you with the 3 most prominent aftermarket upgrades you guys offer for other cars that would be extremely marketable for the first gen RX-7.
Thanks in advance,
Austin
I'm a 1st gen RX-7 owner and you've been brought to my attention through the forum RX-7club.com and I thought I'd contact you and ask a quick question or two.
1. Would you consider R&D on a Panhard bar or tri-link setup for the first gen RX-7's?
The most common setup was discontinued and I'm looking for a replacement. Of course, building one myself is possible but I thought that since you guys have the knowledge and expertise you could market the setup.
2. Front coil over conversion kit?
I see you offer a rear conversion kit (which is AWESOME) and you could consider building a front set and selling one big kit. Just something for thought.
3. Short shifter
Under the AE86 section you have both the short and long throw shifters - which would be awesome to have available towards the first gen RX-7's.
There is a post going on the forum with your info so you may be asked questions similar to these for a while, it can be viewed here:
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generati...8/techno-toy-t...
I thought I'd contact you with the 3 most prominent aftermarket upgrades you guys offer for other cars that would be extremely marketable for the first gen RX-7.
Thanks in advance,
Austin
Originally Posted by TechnoToyTuning
Austin,
Those parts all sound right up our alley.
If you can send me pics or examples of the parts you are after that would help me start to sort stuff out.
I'd probably need a local RX7 to develop parts on, but I think the easiest solution would be for me to pick one up off craigslist, if I can find a shell or old Auto-X car or something. I know there were some changes made through the year runs on the FB, right? Were any of those changes major that would affect developing these parts?
Those parts all sound right up our alley.
If you can send me pics or examples of the parts you are after that would help me start to sort stuff out.
I'd probably need a local RX7 to develop parts on, but I think the easiest solution would be for me to pick one up off craigslist, if I can find a shell or old Auto-X car or something. I know there were some changes made through the year runs on the FB, right? Were any of those changes major that would affect developing these parts?
Originally Posted by lindahlish
Sorry about the delay guys,
I'll search around tonight and try to get an email off to you about the 3 different specific applications that you guys could make some good money working at. I'll add some detailed pics and any measurements you need off of my clean 84 RX-7 (I'll also add any differences between body styles and measurements for you as well).
An early RX-7 isn't hard to find for less than $1,000 and will possibly still run and drive, especially in Cali where you guys are located. Of course it won't pass emissions testing but it would be just an R&D vehicle.
Changes in as much detail as needed is as follows:
1st Gen RX-7's
Year - Acronym - Series # - Axle Differences - Shock Differences - Shifter Differences
1979 - SA - S1 - All small-bearing drums - SA shocks - No differences
1980 - SA - S1 - All small-bearing drums - SA shocks - No differences
1981 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks - No differences
1982 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks No differences
1983 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks No differences
1984 - FB - S3 - Small-bearing drums and big-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks One trans could be different
1985 - FB - S3 - Small-bearing drums and big-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks One trans could be different
Explanation
As These Relate
"1. Would you consider R&D on a Panhard bar or tri-link setup for the first gen RX-7's?"
The frame rails are the same measurements for 79-85 (I'll double check this), the only differences could be in the drum brakes and the discs, possibly between the big and small bearing axles.
"2. Front coil over conversion kit?"
Only thing you'd have to worry about would be the SA different than the FB. There are more FB's than SA's and FB's are modified a little bit more than SA's so I'd go for the FB route to make more money.
"3. Short shifter"
As far as I know all the cars from 79-83 are the same, and possibly even the highest option-ed 84 and 85 cars could have the same shifter as the others.
These things matter from the perspective of you guys only having to possibly make one option for the Panhard bar and tri-link setup and the short shifter, and two options for the coil overs.
Well, that's as detailed as I think you'd be interested in right now. There are more details about differences but they don't really matter with these three R&D products.
I'll search around tonight and try to get an email off to you about the 3 different specific applications that you guys could make some good money working at. I'll add some detailed pics and any measurements you need off of my clean 84 RX-7 (I'll also add any differences between body styles and measurements for you as well).
An early RX-7 isn't hard to find for less than $1,000 and will possibly still run and drive, especially in Cali where you guys are located. Of course it won't pass emissions testing but it would be just an R&D vehicle.
Changes in as much detail as needed is as follows:
1st Gen RX-7's
Year - Acronym - Series # - Axle Differences - Shock Differences - Shifter Differences
1979 - SA - S1 - All small-bearing drums - SA shocks - No differences
1980 - SA - S1 - All small-bearing drums - SA shocks - No differences
1981 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks - No differences
1982 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks No differences
1983 - FB - S2 - Small-bearing drums and small-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks No differences
1984 - FB - S3 - Small-bearing drums and big-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks One trans could be different
1985 - FB - S3 - Small-bearing drums and big-bearing disc LSD's - FB shocks One trans could be different
Explanation
- Year - year of car, no-brainer
- Acronym - 1st two letters of the VIN tag, 1979-1980 7's are referred to as SA's, 1981-1985 7's are referred to as FB's, total years from 79-85 are just called 1st Gen RX-7's
- Series # - S1, 2, and 3 just basically refer to differences in interior and some other small changes.
- Axle differences:
79 and 80 had the same axle throughout both years
81 - 83 had two different axles for the same engine
- Small-bearing drums and small-bearing LSD's
84-85 had two different axles for two different engines
-Small-bearing drums and big-bearing LSD's - Shock differences - SA shocks are slightly shorter (I believe) than FB shocks, enough to make it necessary to need two different shocks for SA's and FB's
- Shifter differences - all 79-85 12a transmissions have the same shifter (I believe), the only one that may be different is the 13b transmission only found in 84 and 85's with the highest trim level
As These Relate
"1. Would you consider R&D on a Panhard bar or tri-link setup for the first gen RX-7's?"
The frame rails are the same measurements for 79-85 (I'll double check this), the only differences could be in the drum brakes and the discs, possibly between the big and small bearing axles.
"2. Front coil over conversion kit?"
Only thing you'd have to worry about would be the SA different than the FB. There are more FB's than SA's and FB's are modified a little bit more than SA's so I'd go for the FB route to make more money.
"3. Short shifter"
As far as I know all the cars from 79-83 are the same, and possibly even the highest option-ed 84 and 85 cars could have the same shifter as the others.
These things matter from the perspective of you guys only having to possibly make one option for the Panhard bar and tri-link setup and the short shifter, and two options for the coil overs.
Well, that's as detailed as I think you'd be interested in right now. There are more details about differences but they don't really matter with these three R&D products.
Originally Posted by TechnoToyTuning
Austin,
This is exactly the kind of info I need. I very much so appreciate the layout and concise details.
I'll start looking for a local RX7!
It's no big deal making different coilover kits for the SA and FB. Likely the changes are very minor.
This is exactly the kind of info I need. I very much so appreciate the layout and concise details.
I'll start looking for a local RX7!
It's no big deal making different coilover kits for the SA and FB. Likely the changes are very minor.
I've offered to ship out a spare FB shifter to them, as well as my old FB shocks for measurements and start to R&D. I'll be taking some pics and measurements for the Panhard setup as well.
Super stoked about this - they've been nothing but courteous and quick, I hope that they can develop some parts for us!
03-15-13, 01:01 PM
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Man thats good work!!!
If you send him an email back before I do, you might mention he could pick up a Miata short shifter and do some R&D off of it since they are a common swap into FBs. Also mention not to forget about the SE, since lots of guys swap to that suspension setup and bolt pattern.
Maybe a triangulated strut tower brace too.
If you send him an email back before I do, you might mention he could pick up a Miata short shifter and do some R&D off of it since they are a common swap into FBs. Also mention not to forget about the SE, since lots of guys swap to that suspension setup and bolt pattern.
Maybe a triangulated strut tower brace too.
03-15-13, 04:54 PM
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I have the roll canter adjusters on my FB. Beautifully made. I believe they are actually the same ones they sell for the AE86 so I was planning to try out their AE86 front lower control arms on the FB as well since mine are knackered and a pair of new ones are close to the same price as the AE86 arms. Only issue I would run into, if any is the RE-Speed rack's rear arm mount locations to the control arm maybe be different, but having a new bracket made up wouldn't be hard. However if they were to design a bolt on application for the FB I'd hop on that train in a heartbeat. Also a panhard would be awesome as a tri-link/panhard setup and the front LCA's are really the only suspension mods I have left to do. Put me down for some more TTT parts.
If you look through the rest of their catalog for the other vehicles they build parts for, many are the same if not similar, so it should not be too much extra R&D to extend the parts line into the FB. I think the biggest reason they haven't had many requests is because they are known for AE86 parts mostly. It's hard to approach a company about making parts for a car without a show of support for them. They are already an established aftermarket parts manufacturer so they may have a higher chance of succeeding in FB parts development where others haven't.
Only problem with a panhard set up is the bars they offer are for vehicles that came from the factory with one, unlike the SA/FB which would require an entire mount kit and bar setup. Hopefully they see the desire for such parts and put the effort in.
If you look through the rest of their catalog for the other vehicles they build parts for, many are the same if not similar, so it should not be too much extra R&D to extend the parts line into the FB. I think the biggest reason they haven't had many requests is because they are known for AE86 parts mostly. It's hard to approach a company about making parts for a car without a show of support for them. They are already an established aftermarket parts manufacturer so they may have a higher chance of succeeding in FB parts development where others haven't.
Only problem with a panhard set up is the bars they offer are for vehicles that came from the factory with one, unlike the SA/FB which would require an entire mount kit and bar setup. Hopefully they see the desire for such parts and put the effort in.
03-15-13, 05:10 PM
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like these https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/a...-strut-casings
03-15-13, 05:26 PM
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Seeing as they modify factory AE86 struts and shorten them they may be able to offer the same conversion service for our struts using MKII Supra inserts, which DMClean did with great results. I know I'm running mine with very little room left before bottoming and still want to go a tad lower. But I think that could wait until the basics are covered.
