teaser pics of the 12a turbo
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teaser pics of the 12a turbo
test fitting all the stuff I can right now. Still waiting on my intake manifold from Japan. Wanted to see if the turbo was higher than the oil return. they are dead even. Aluminum oil pan and baffle plate installed. and my heat shield for the turbo came out pretty decent. Hope to have it in the car in a week or two.
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Jeff easier to answer with a picture
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Street ported
To4e
Looking toward 250-300hp oh wait expectations just fun as HELL!!!!!
I measured the OD of the tube-like outlet and it is very similar to the ID of a thickwall 3" pipe you can find online. I think it was 2.78" vs 2.76" or something like that. The way I'd install it is I'd heat up the pipe and chill the housing. Then tap it on and let the two become the same temp. This is what is called an interference fit I believe. Then I'd weld on some brackets for stability, kinda similar to your backet that bolts up to the oil inlet.
The pipe would be a few inches long, long enough to get a V-band or some sort of flange back there for ease of installation. 3" of course.
Here is a link. Speedy Metals - 3" OD {A} x 2.760" ID {B} x .120" Wall {C} DOM Steel Tube
The pipe would be a few inches long, long enough to get a V-band or some sort of flange back there for ease of installation. 3" of course.
Here is a link. Speedy Metals - 3" OD {A} x 2.760" ID {B} x .120" Wall {C} DOM Steel Tube
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I measured the OD of the tube-like outlet and it is very similar to the ID of a thickwall 3" pipe you can find online. I think it was 2.78" vs 2.76" or something like that. The way I'd install it is I'd heat up the pipe and chill the housing. Then tap it on and let the two become the same temp. This is what is called an interference fit I believe. Then I'd weld on some brackets for stability, kinda similar to your backet that bolts up to the oil inlet.
The pipe would be a few inches long, long enough to get a V-band or some sort of flange back there for ease of installation. 3" of course.
Here is a link. Speedy Metals - 3" OD {A} x 2.760" ID {B} x .120" Wall {C} DOM Steel Tube
The pipe would be a few inches long, long enough to get a V-band or some sort of flange back there for ease of installation. 3" of course.
Here is a link. Speedy Metals - 3" OD {A} x 2.760" ID {B} x .120" Wall {C} DOM Steel Tube
At first I was looking at finding a V band that would fit over and fill the gap then welding along the inside of the band. Looks like you have a good plan already. (edited) I just looked at my pic again that inside lip isnt very thick when they come to the same temp the tubing might squeeze and crack it maybe?
I'm really looking forward to getting it in the car and fabricating the rest of my exhaust and intercooler piping.
On a really good note. I got a message today that my intake manifold is in the mail!!!!!
Yeah I thought it might tend to crack, but the sizes are 2.76 ID in the 3" tube and 2.78" OD on the back of the turbo. That's not that big a difference in actual size. But you're right it is thin iron back there. Like two hundreths. 
What to do? I kinda wonder why turbos are still made like this, if you can't get the weird connectors anymore.
I wish I could say the same about my intake manifold. It's a JW from Summit that had to be special ordered. Once it arrives at Summit, they can ship it to me.

What to do? I kinda wonder why turbos are still made like this, if you can't get the weird connectors anymore.
I wish I could say the same about my intake manifold. It's a JW from Summit that had to be special ordered. Once it arrives at Summit, they can ship it to me.
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I welded a v band on the original flange. It'll make the down pipe easier to make.
I was welding it on the inside too but I ran outa argon. So only got half of it done on the inside.
I was welding it on the inside too but I ran outa argon. So only got half of it done on the inside.
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Interesting. Thanks for the link. The problem is it's a really cheap eBay turbo and I don't know much about it, only that I've seen something that looks similar on the back of a Garret to4e once. I can post a link to the eBay turbo so you can see what it looks like. Emusa T04B T4V Band 60AR Trim 63 1 15AR Turbo Charger | eBay
Check out the wheel sizes. Not a bad combination, really. If you're into small turbos that is. I chose it because it's really close to S5 T2 specs. And if it doesn't last long, it's cheap to replace.
Check out the wheel sizes. Not a bad combination, really. If you're into small turbos that is. I chose it because it's really close to S5 T2 specs. And if it doesn't last long, it's cheap to replace.
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Mines a Garrett to4e. I have a metric caliper I can give you the measurements if you want. Since its a newer turbo and its states 3" v band. I think that link is what you need. Give the company a call and see if they can give you actual measurements.
I have been meaning to ask. Since you do alot of engine work. Do you need a 4 port 13b IDA intake manifold?
I have been meaning to ask. Since you do alot of engine work. Do you need a 4 port 13b IDA intake manifold?
I don't have access to the Garret t04e. It belongs to a friend who owns the white rotary baja. He thought he was going turbo it but just wants to get it running NA for now. He picked up some 2.5" u-bends from me the other day to do an NA exhaust.
Ok I'll see about contacting that company. Thanks.
I don't need an IDA manifold since I don't have any IDA stuff. But I'm sure lots of 1st gen rotorheads would be interested.
Ok I'll see about contacting that company. Thanks.
I don't need an IDA manifold since I don't have any IDA stuff. But I'm sure lots of 1st gen rotorheads would be interested.
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Today's project was to complete the welding on the inside of the flange and to add a 4an bung to the compressor housing to use as a reference for the boost controller and wastegate.





