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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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teardown pics eewww

since i didnt want to hijack Pete's(peejay) thread, i will post here. Pete, John(nevarmore), Eric(schreindogg), and I tore down one of my old engines the day of our meet. the engine was seized and had been sitting for 4 years......in a garage. here's a quick lowdown of what we found:












i can post more at request. i know its gross. its bacically junk. its too bad. maybe i can use the end plates
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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Wow. That looks as if it has been under water for those 4 years. Well, almost.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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ugly...
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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There was another one on here not TOO long ago that was in similar condition. I almost puked then, and I almost puked now
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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maybe if you sit everything in a tub of Coke a cola for awhile, the rust can do away!
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jays83gsl
There was another one on here not TOO long ago that was in similar condition. I almost puked then, and I almost puked now
That would be mine! I think it was almost worse that that The sludge built up was about 3 cm thick, it was gross.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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These threads make me afraid of when I tear mine apart
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Thats nasty... real nasty.... reminds me of working on my old '62 Fairlane... rust everywhere
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Looks like an 83-85 12a. How are them rotors cleaning up?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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its an 83. you can tell by the counterweight. only the front rotor is decent. i am not sure if i will re-use any internals. the rear rotor was seized to the e-shaft. the fron rotor is scummy but maybe there's hope. i may rebuld another 12A that i have laying around. i have 3 more.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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hahaha awesome, you also buy Castrol GTX 20W50 by the case?
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:35 PM
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Castrol?! ARen't YOU the fancey ones. I use the **** you get for 98 cents at wal mart. A case is like, $10!
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cdrad51
hahaha awesome, you also buy Castrol GTX 20W50 by the case?

i do buy it by the case, lol. with oil injected engines, you can never have too much oil in stock i use nothing but castrol. my personal thing i guess. something just doesn't feel right to me using the 98 cent oil. but thats just me i guess
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Old May 25, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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I normally don't buy my Castrol GTX 20W50 by the case, but with the car recently consuming a quart every other day, I bought one. Now that the internal oil leak is handled, I have oil reserves to last for awhile.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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GTX 20W50 by the case also. Also stocked up on a couple of Oil Filters. I hate to go to the store and find they are out of filters when I go to change oil. Try and have one on hand all the time.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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i bought a case of Castrol GTX 10w-30 !
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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wow, arent you special, lol.
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Old May 25, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Now I'm definately scared to look inside mine.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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That was fun.

Keep in mind we tore an engine apart because we were BORED. After sorting out Jacks -SE and getting the idle on my GS unbuggered (it was the Throttle Position Switch and the A/C compensator) there were 5 of us just standing around, with tools out, already greasy and our gracious host had moved 4 cars into the street so we could tinker. Imagine what kind of hell we could have made if we got into a better engine with a beer run and a hole saw....
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Old May 27, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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aww, it was nothing, lol. we did have a blast though! it turned out to be a great meet and it was great fun tearing down the engine. do you remember the "chode"? rotfl!!!
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Old May 27, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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I've got quite a few on my website also: http://www.eng.utoledo.edu/~eschrein...x7_meet_5-9-05

here are some of the worst:







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Old May 27, 2005 | 02:36 AM
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Also, Dave when do you want to start ripping apart another motor to rebuild?
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Old May 27, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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That thing was either a coolant seal motor that someone let sit (by definition coolant seal failure lets coolant into the combustion chamber which will cause rust if not blown out), or it just got water into it by some other means (sitting with intake off, hood open, outside in the yard, etc. usually the only things reuseable would be rotorhousings and e-shaft. However the pre 86 rotorhousings chrome flake too badly to be reused most of the time anyway, so I'd call it a total loss. It's usually really hard to get stuck side seals out of rusty rotors.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 10:33 AM
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That motor is depressing.

I've bought 2 cases of Royal Purple 20/50 for REPU so far.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Yea I have 2 just like that one I'm affraid I dont have a digital camera or I would take pictures .
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