my friend has a 84 rex, just put a camden super charger on it. his brother has a 13b TII motor and 13 lbs psi on it. He had a rotary tech put the SC in and ran it 15lbs on the super charger. I rode in it after that and OMG i wanted to cream myself, they both have racing beat HD clutch and GSL SE rear ends. Btw its the 7" camden SC


they lined up for a race, i flagged em. pshhh no chance, the supercharger version of the 1st gen stomped that turbo so bad, 7+ car length. he got to 120 mph and stoped with the turbo trailing badly, and this turbo is on a fresh rebuild with a nice greddy blow off valuve and everything.


So ya my next thing is a supercharger, and it doesnt put nearly the wear, or shoot bullshit carbon back into my motor! , turbos are u lame ******* now in my book!


TURBO = CANCER !

 

btw im driving that SC car tonight, hopefully i can get my digicam and make some videos! With this SC and Strong clutch/rear end, i could barely pull out of 1st and 2nd without having to ride clutch to prevent burnout! im excited! =P

 

Hey Im selling my camden supercharger setup including The supercharger, manifold, holley carb, holley high performance fuel pump, and whatever else i dont need in the setup for $1,500. Everything is almost new.

Reason Im selling is Im going fuel injection w/micro tech...

If you know anyone that wants the setup pm me...you wont get a deal like this anywhere...

I LOVE SUPERCHARGERS, but LOVE Turbos too...just superchargers a bit more.

 

Uhh, yeah.
I smell a locked thread waiting to happen.
(Trust me, I know. )

 

I think we have been here before huh....
I like both. In fact I have a different view on things now that Ive learned more sterling...

Honestly I think that its still is a matter of preference. I think superchargers are much better at the low end of things. You want fast from the start....then go supercharger. I do think that Turbos have much more HP than superchargers by far. For the 1/4 I prefer superchargers. One thing though about the blowers on my point of view is that the longevity is better with them over turbos. I think blowers are easier to set up also.

But to say Turbos have cancer is very crazy. I want a Turbo someday so I can have one of each.

Will see what happens when I change to fuel Injection with the micro tech....I will let ya know. Just waiting on parts whooo hoooo. cant wait

 

If that one race makes you think that turbos are cancer or that people with them are '*******', then you are not a very knowledgeable fellow.

There could be any number of factors on why the turbo car lost the race, not just because the other car had a SC ...

 

Hey EvilRotor,

Wanna trade FB's?

 

I don't feel anything for turbos either. Think about this; turbos are great for maximum power, high boost, bragging rights, dyno-queen status etc. But what about giving the rotary a boost where it actually needs it? In the low RPM range.

I'm really looking forward to learning more about the Whipple Charger. It looks very promising. As for the Camden roots blower, well, I am familier with the pros and cons. However, still I'd get one right now if I had some extra cash laying around. Man, I wish I could get one right now. I'd get CODE BLUE's today if I could.

 

There is always someone who is faster.

 

Hey code blue, do you still have the supercharger setup? I'm kinda interested in buying. But i've been mostly looking into turbos. The only problem is that i wouldnt be able to buy it right away. I would have the cash by august. Anyways, what all does putting a supercharger in entail in comparison to putting in a turbo? Is it more or less expensive? If it's more expensive, how much more? and is it worth extra low end power?

 

well, it's usually more expensive by far... but if you were to get code blue's setup you would be about the same cost as a nice turbo setup.

 

Superchargers by design don't work from the heat of the engine like a turbo does and even with an innercooler a turbo setup just bakes an engine. the under hood temps don't help either. where-as a SC, roots type with impellers uses a fresh cooler charge of air. but both produce power that is respectable.

 

I think the intake temps with my turbo setup are plenty low. It's been in the high 80's this week, and after beating on my car for a while I decided to feel how hot the intercooler pipes and the intake manifold are. IC pipes feel exactly the same as if the car had not been driven. Intake manifold was cold, enough for water to condense on it My intercooler is two TII intercoolers welded together.

 

Well...I was hoping that Twigg will buy my setup....he has a very nice car, but if he doesnt get it then yeah its still for sale. I havent really tried to sell it yet, but as soon as they start on my car, I will post a 4 sale on it. It should be in the next couple weeks that I will do the change over. I was seriously thinking of going turbo on my car and doing that change over, but Im very fond of the superchargers, so I decided to just try fuel injection with it and a microtech. I think you could put a turbo setup for about the same price, or close to it...yes, but then again its what you prefer. You ask if its worth the low end power...well SMILE....YES it is100% worth it. Im a truely addicted blower fan. They are fun. That instant power is so well worth it. Hills? What hills.

I would never knock down a turbo.

As for heat issues, superchargers do produce a lot of heat. I found from Dan Atkins that an 86 fan works just fine to keep the heat down so I installed one in my 79. I also have an electric fan and a heat shield just for the fun of things. Temp never goes up, stays the same all the time.

 

I totally agree with you eViLRotor. Theres many people that can smoke me on the track, and yet theres many pistons I can smoke big time. There are so many factors definetly. The superchargers at the start are pretty quick.....just dont let that turbo catch up to you...or you be in trouble.

 

well i think your



your in florida? hmm....maybe we can arrange a little grudge race against your s/c junk against a little street driven turbo first gen....im sure he is running on low boost and im sure he will smoke your junk too!!!
if your interested let me know....oh yah, maybe we could put some $$$on the race

 

"Mmmmm, yesssss."
(...the devil rubs his hands together awaiting rotorheads' worst behavoirs, for he knows it will come out in this very discussion.)

Everybody get a ******* grip!
Comments like the ones made by twigg and Robert is the childish behavoir that is the tell-tale sign that you people have been spray painting cars without ******* respirators.
Grow up already!

 

Rubbish. Underhood temps aside, the heat produced by either a turbo or supercharger depends on the efficiency of the compressor. Turbos are generally more efficient so the the heat produced for a given boost pressure is less. It has nothing to do with the fact turbos are driven by the exhaust.

 

sterling you are such a tool. You carring your self like a dumb redneck. Can you even post a message with out writing F***. You need to grow up.... thats probably pretty hard to do for a 40 old hasbeen, wait you were never anyone. Why don't you go build another junk carb.

 

jeff,i agree with you, big turbos do have lag in the low rpm's , where a rotary needs help the most....where i could see a whipple charger's instant boost working for you...the main problem with s/c setups is they usally cant take the rpm's of a rotary(thus blow up alot)so the s/c manufacturers underdrive them to prevent them from overspinning , this in turn causes boost lag similar to what you get with a turbo..the only other flaw i see with s/c systems is they take power away from the motor....with a small engine this is not good...

i wish sterling would finish hi s/c idea, (the whipple chargers are the least power robbing of all the s/c out there i think he had something there......

p.s. if you have a street car and you know how to size turbos correctly, then you can build a turbo car to come on boost very fast....rotarys make tons of exhaust energy and turbos work off exhaust energy, thats why rotarys work so well with turbos...

 

That does make sense.. big time. because of the exhuast cycles.. i allways read about re-built turbos, rebuilding,turbos. converting to 1 turbo, on 3rd gens.
i don't know what would fail, to rebuild it except the heat just bakes the **** out everything, i think.

 

Well here we go. I go away for 1 day and this is what happens? Let the lashings commence. Everyone I mention here in this post, consider yourself officially WARNED. I wont tolerate this bullshit. But before that let me say this. Its the internet people, you must read more carefully. He said TURBOS, not the people who own turbo cars, TURBOS was what he disliked after his experience. Learn to read and interpret correctly, grow thicker skins or go elsewhere.

1st up

He's not attacking you, dont incite internet fights here. And dont tell me you were just trying to be funny. I'm not that stupid.


2nd

I dont even know where to begin with you. This isint your private little internet chat room. Feel like being an internet bully? Do it somewhere else. You sir are definately officially WARNED.

And you were right Sterling, I'm locking this thread. Sorry Twigg. Feel free to start another one if you wanna talk about the SC.