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I've heard this is very easy to do on a 12 and that the carb needs no mods, but does anyone have a link maybe that shows how to install and such, I've found one for putting a turbo on a 12a but nothing on super... thanks much and sorry if I just didn't look hard enough.

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How 'bout this.... Do I need to change anything when putting on a supercharger? Like fuel pump and such? Thanks much.

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'83*Rx7Maz#

I got a 83 12a 6 port, and i am doing the same to mine i suggest dont go brass, but keep to a not so heavy clutch coz you dont wanna do your gear box say a 450 pound to 650 any more and its a waist of money...also do your flywheel it would rev up heaps better...

blown 83

Yes. Any forced induction...you must address your fuel system. Pump, regulator, lines (preferrably), and carb. need to changed or you are risking having a bad 12A.

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So maybe the lines, pump, and regulator off an old gsl-se?
Since it's fuel injected it should be able to handle the extra gas right?

I'm not very smart.


Thanks.

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Dan_s_young

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I thought most people who were running sc's were using holley carbs?

CODE BLUE 2

What kind of blower do you have?
I ran a holley carb with my SC and everything worked fine until I went efi/ecu. It then got a bit more challenging.

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I don't have a SC picked out ATM, what would you suggest?

Cheap yet decent, not too much boost so I don't need to change much.


Thanks

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Hades12

an SC system will cost about 3k,

http://www.atkinsrotary.com/ sales a 12A SC and they can fit it with a Holly, you would need a new pump and reg but not lines.

EFI adds many more changes.


You need to read a lot more and then come back and ask questions. There are several good books that you can read about SC's that will help you learn the basics.

books on turbos can also be a help as the principles are the same. corkey Bell has a book called Maxium boost, it is real good.

CODE BLUE 2

Well with the Camden Superchargers you would have to change your water pump and housing to an 86. You can keep everything the same on your car, including your stock carb, but suggested that you go with a Holley or a Webber. Your fuel system and everything else should be fine to handle the Supercharger install.

Efi does get a bit more challenging. Ive been trying to perfect the efi/ecu problems on my 79 for a while now. I think I finally have all issues figured out. Now its completing the tuning with the Microtech and I will post all probs and fixes.

Hades12

Code blue


You need to start a tread on your recent changes to the car. I would like to see some new pics and info on the EFI and the new Ignition.

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I think I almost have everything figured out. Its been a long frustrating road for the last few years trying to get this all perfected, but yes Im planning on helping everyone with what Ive gone through with all my issues, including carbed setup, and efi/ecu problems and fixes. I will post pics etc when Im done.

Mind you Camden is not the best blower on the market, but has made a lot of progress in the years. Its a very easy blower to install, but definetly has had its times where Ive wanted to call it quits.

I will grab some pics later on this evening

Atkins Dan

siXstar;



Call me tomarrow 7\20\05 and I will tell you all the info you need to install this setup and any eXtra parts you will need as well..

the shop # is 253-848-7776

Later
Dan Atkins

thedonn007

Is there a website for Camden Superchargers? What is the more cost effective upgrade supercharger or turbo? I am currently running a 13b with a holley carb.

Hades12

http://www.camdensuperchargers.com/

but Dan owns them now.

you will have to reseach and decide what you think is the most Cost effective.

Phiber Optik

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I might be willing to let go of my Eaton M90 blower, a lot of 2nd gen guys are using this blower on there 13b's.

A young guy on the forum built a pretty reliable setup a year or so back with this blower for dirt cheap.

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Dan don't own Camden....its the sister company of Atkins Rotary.

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Eaton, might be your better bet than Camden. I like my Supercharger and all but once you purchase the setup/blower, there's limited tech support for all the issues that you will encure, especially if you want to go bigger than a 5in blower and carb. Tech support will cost you extra. If you put an Atkins sticker on your car you might have better luck. Don't ever take it off cause you will be S.O.L. Buwhaha

There's many problems with the Camden blowers. Heat issues, HP issues, and by no means does the blower get 27 miles to the gallon. EFI/ECU microtechs are a bitch with this setup. Endless tuning problems, fuel delivery problems, "which comes from the heat issue".

Camdens run extreamly hot under your hood. Best bet is to find a way yourself to cool them down if you want one. I have a heat sheild under the blower, 86 clutched fan, and e-fan, and heat wrapped my header, and took my thermostat out. This seems to help so far with controling some of the heat, but not all. As modded as my car is, Im still waiting for the Hp numbers that they claim the setup gives. I have yet to see them. Hopefully, my new rebuilt motor can give me some of those numbers they claim.

Even though I do have this setup, Im not going to quit on it, I will give it my all in trying to cool the system down with some help from some other sources....AKA- X- Employee that has worked on the blowers for Camden, since Atkins suggests no options in helping me.

Love David
AKA CODE BLUE in da house

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SiXstar; PM me and let me know what Dan tells you and I will let you know what else you need, that he dont tell you.

SonicRaT

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And how long have I been telling you all of that!? Finally you see the light!

The M90 is on the small side, and pretty inefficient (think 58% or less). Really, the best supercharger for the rotary is a whipple, or a decently fitted cetrifugal (i've yet to find one that fits well).

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Sonic, Ive always listened to you, but what can one do when they had already purchased the product. I'm sure though that there will be no warranty on the blower if something happens to it. I'm sure it will be "you drive your car too hard", or something on those lines. Then I will go with one that you suggest. So I might be needing your help with suggestions when the time comes.
Were working on other options for more cooling to see if this might help.
Thanks

SonicRaT

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Well, here's what I'd do, you've already got everything, so why not play. I'd find someone to build you an Air/water intercooler that you can bolt underneath the charger onto the manifold directly, then I'd install alcohol injectors in the underneath side. I realize this is getting a little on the 'crazy' side, but **** it'd surely help. I would most DEFINATLY start with the a/w intercooler mounted directly under the charger, that should yield your best results at cooling that bitch down.

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From reading around, the M90 does seem to be the best choice. With the whipple, while they use less power they still have their problems stated by https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=whipple

and the thing with centrifugal is that they do not get their power untill the late RPMS and would not hit full boost until around 8k and that would not be good on the engine after many 8ks and would cause it to eventually blow. What are some whipples and centrifugals that have worked WELL with our 7?

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Actually thats sorta the next plan. There is someone trying to fab something as an intercooler for the Superchargers. I talked with him on the phone this afternoon about it. He is having the same heating issues basically with the Camden Supercharger. Some sorta intercooler is a must. Hopefully soon he will come up with the solution intercooled to all our woes.

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so why supercharge in the 1st place when turbo options are a dime dozen and are a much proven and efficient source for those who are power hungry. i don't really see any sense in doing this; that and seems like there's problems that the supercharger guys seem to be stuck with.