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Old May 29, 2006 | 09:36 AM
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Strut cartridge removal... Yeah, I searched.

I finally got that damn eight sided nut off by reinstalling the assembly into the car and loosening it there... Easy.

But now, the damn cartridge won't come out. I thought it would just slide right out, so what the hell am I doing wrong? None of the threads I searched through seemed to cover getting the cartridge out, although one said something about "install the nut and whack it." So, by that, I'm assuming I need to put the nut back on the top of the strut, put my pipe wrench up against the nut, and nail the wrench with a BFH. Does that sound about right?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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There is a suction effect caused by the fluid in there, just pull harder....(?) It will slide out slowly, watch out for that old fluid.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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just keep pulling. just try random things to get a better grip. definately remember what aussie said, watch out for the old fluid. when i did my first one my leg got covered in the grease. a vise helps out a lot to hold the strut tube, or try standing on it and pulling up. standing on it also seems like itll be better in preventing the spilling of the old fluid.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I banged on it a little bit with a hammer, it came right out. Man, there was an assload of fluid, but I was prepared for that, didn't get any on me.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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Do I need to oil around the new strut cartridge? If so, what do I use for it?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Do I need to oil around the new strut cartridge? If so, what do I use for it?
According to the FSM, when using Cartridge type dampers, Procedures 1-5 are not required.

Procedure 1 being: Fill Shock absorber tube with 225cc of Shock absorber fluid.

I think that fluid int he tube was from the old blown out shock.

Note torque specs:

Using stock refillable shocks: 36-43 Ft-Lbs (That'd be Procedure 5, not required as stated above.)

Using Cartridge type shocks: 58-108 Ft-Lbs.

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Old May 29, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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I think you need to fill up around with fluid, but I did not do it when I put mine in.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 02:30 PM
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On the oem struts, you actually rebuild them. The strut inserts do away with that procedure. Pour a couple of oz. of motor oil in the tube before installing the insert. There should be just enough oil in there so that when the insert is inserted, a little oil comes out.

The oil helps transfer heat away from the new insert, they last longer.
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Old May 29, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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From what I understand, the fluid is there only to help in transfering the heat out. So it's sort of a preventitive measure for the longetivity of the strut.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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yea its only for heat tranfer, a little atf works good for that as its thin and transfers heat well, it only takes a little bit to fill up the housing with aftermarket struts in there, don't put too much and spill it everywhere when you put it all together like i did
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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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Antifreeze is what Mazdatrix told me to use.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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i used antifreeze also, was told to do so by anyone, just figured itd work better
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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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I've used both antifreeze and motor oil, depending on what I had around at the time. I'm not sure it matters overmuch, just so long as there is some liquid around the insert to help heat transfer...
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:35 PM
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Anti-freeze or auto trans fluid is what I've used with no problems.

The original strut has the shock built into the strut the replacement is a enclosed unit into itself.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Well, I have anti-freeze and oil around here... I'll probably put in the antifreeze.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Personally, I would use oil. Better heat transfer and no chance of rust.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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Use mayo. It tastes better...
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Haha, mayo...

perhaps some olive oil and basil.

I used MMO to fill the tubes. I think a light weight oil would work best.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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I'm putting Koni reds in and they don't go down all the way. It's almost like they are binding on the way down. Just need like another inch or so.... Anything I can do? What am I missing?
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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I'm putting Koni reds in and they don't go down all the way. It's almost like they are binding on the way down. Just need like another inch or so.... Anything I can do? What am I missing?
Have you looked down in the tube to make sure there isn't anything down there for them to catch on? Are they the right struts for the car?
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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I'm putting Koni reds in and they don't go down all the way. It's almost like they are binding on the way down. Just need like another inch or so.... Anything I can do? What am I missing?
Check the tubes for dings, dents and lay a straight edge down the length. Check the entire circumference.
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