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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Starting a cold rotary (non flooded)

I swear if someone wanted to steal my rx7 they would have a hard time that's for sure..

It takes a while to start it and I do not know why (1985 GS) I pump it once, turn the ignition, pull the choke.. and it still takes several time and tries to get it started. I do not think it is getting enough fuel or something but it never starts on the first try. (new battery)

(New plugs, wires, new dist cap -rotor)

Any ideas?

When it is warm - starts right away.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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Take the lid off the carb and have someone pump the gas pedal, do you see a strong squirt of gas from the middle of carb,,,if not then you may have a bad accelerator pump diaphram, try pouring a small amount of gas (ounce) directly down carb throat and pull out choke and see if it fires up,,,if it does then I would say yes to your post about not enough fuel...how does your fuel filter look,,dont take much to clog one up..good luck, I have been there too with your problem....bad diaphram, clogged filter, fuel pump, dirty carb. etc.....
but fired up fine in warm weather too.....
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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Have you tried starting it without pumping the pedal? I find that my car actually starts quicker and easier if I just pull the choke and turn the key. You may be flooding it slightly with the initial shot of gas.
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Old Dec 28, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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hmm

I will try that.. this morning.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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nope..

It did not work.. however I pumped more and it took less cranking.. so I think it is not getting enough fule when I try to start it
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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When mine is cold, I have to pump it about 5 times, pull the choke, turn it over - takes a couple of cranks, but nothing major, before firing up.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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hmm

I agree.. I am going to pump it more that once or twice... mind you here in Vancouver cold is relative.. 40f and in my garage..

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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Can no longer start...

Well I have to get the tow truck now..
It just will not start now.. temps went down here to 27f and ever since..it wants to catch for a second or so.. then it just turns. It is getting enough fuel.. maybe not enough spark.. dunno..

I will let Rudy figure it out.. (Tekam automotive)
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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re-check for a vacuum leak, i had the same problem with a fine running 7, then i removed the air filter box and put it back on and all the sudden it would not stay started, ended up being a loose hose, the one at left/rear of carb, then it cranked right up......
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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I would try a little carb cleaner or starting fluid for those really cold starts.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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same problem, not the gas

I had the same problem for the longest time. Untill recently usually my 83 would start after a few pumps. But one day it wouldn't start at all, nothing. I pumped and pumped, jus flooded. Finally I checked my plugs and wires, they were shot, one was actually broken (I just bought the car). Now the car fires right up, don't even have to pump it.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Cool

Originally posted by Rotor13B
I would try a little carb cleaner or starting fluid for those really cold starts.
I have to do the same on mine to get it to actually fire when it's cranked over. I'm thinking the ignition system is not up to par since it is the origional everything from 1980. Makes sense though that some highly combustable fluid will spark easier than regular gasoline, and would probably work on a much weaker spark signal.

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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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New spark plugs, dist cap, rotor, taylor wires a week ago..

Ack!

I will have a look at to see if there is a loose hose around the air filter.

Maybe I should replace both coils..
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Try holding the accelerator at 1/2-way down (do not pump) while cranking with a good battery.
Works for my '85 gsl 12A (carbed) here in Calgary at -25C.
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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I will try that...

Are you
1. Putting in clutch
2. Hold accel down
3. turning key to on
4. Pull choke out
5. Turn key all the way..
?
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by jimwww
I will try that...

Are you
1. Putting in clutch
2. Hold accel down
3. turning key to on
4. Pull choke out
5. Turn key all the way..
?
Precisely.
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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Excellent..
I will do that tomorrow morning.
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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I found out what it was... after I towed it to my mechanic - Rudy.

Burned out coil. It was internittent and then failed .. works fine now.

:-)
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