From their website:

CP RACING & DESIGNS bolt on big brake kit, intended for use with factory 2nd generation 88 turbo II 10.9 rotors and 4 piston callipers to be used with factory 1st generation front suspension. NO SUSPENSION REMOVAL REQUIRED! Allows for bolt pattern change NO MORE 4x110mm! Can be run in 5x114.3 setup or use the GSL-SE/2nd generation Rx7 4x114.3 bolt pattern configurations. Uses factory 1st generation Rx7 master cylinder and brake lines, no additional proportioning valve needed. Minimum wheel size required is 15 inch. Dramatically improved braking, and non-existent brake fade. Quick and easy installation, no fabrication/welding or chassis modifications required. Uses all factory replacement parts, installation guide provide. And as always we pay for the ground shipping!!!

* Note 78-83 cars need to use 84-85 GSL or GSL-SE lower front strut assemblies*
What you need to supply-
T2 brake rotors and callipers, 5 bolt(T2) or 4 bolt(base model) hub assemblies (including wheel bearings/seals/races), brake pads.

So my question is, what the hell do they provide for $375???

 

Exactly what I think every time I see that. Sounds like they don't provide anything for the $375.

 

Basicly, they provide an adaptor that installs over the spindle, so the larger T2 bearings/seals can be used. There may be a little more to it than that, but I don't know.

 

Oh, I think they also provide a caliper mounting bracket.....

 

Here's your $375 box of air, courtesy of CP Racing!

All this because I want to get some damn wheels for my car. I can't rationalize spending $300+ on wheel adapters.

 

they provide 2 aluminium rings(seal adapters),a caliper mounting bracket,and a handull of bolts.all for the low price of $375 plus shipping. it doesnt really seem worth it to me.but thena again i dont know how much it helps out.

 

I think I'm getting a GSL-SE rear end, which I think is 114.3 x 4. What do I have to do to get my fronts to 114.3 as well?

 

yeah and thats as easy as swaping to gsl-se struts. while at the same time you get a little bigger brake set-up. i dont know exactly how much bigger the gsl-se brake than the gsl. but i have some rotors in the garage and ill measure tonight.

 

The CP 5 lug adapters at $320 (IIRC) is far cheaper than the big brake kit, plus everything else you would need, especially considering this setup does not address the rear at all.
If you are just looking for a way to get more wheel choices, the adapters would be the way to go.
Of course, there is always the option to have your current front hubs and rear axles redrilled...............

 

I'm swapping to the GSL-SE rear end because I want A) posi, and B) four wheel discs. With the engine swap coming this winter, I need both. I just want to get new wheels soon, so I'm doing that swap at the same time.

 

Well, if you plan to upgrade to SE suspension, keep in mind they use a different offset vs the non SE stuff. Generally, adding the 4x110 to 4x114.3 adapters requires using the same offset as SE stuff. This is completely dependant upon the thickness of the adapters, though. I cannot recall what the best thickness is, but I am sure others can quote this for you.

 

Rogue, you're saying that instead of swapping the front stuff for -SE stuff, I should just get two wheel adapters?

 

No, I was refering to using adapters front and rear, until you made the swap.
The best plan, would be to get the full setup you plan to use, then buying wheels to fit, and waiting till the swap is complete to install the wheels. But, with the correct adapters, you could use the same set of wheels on the current setup, and then make the suspension swap, and bolt them right back on. I just cannot recall the offset difference between SE's and non SE's, which could be used to determine the thickness of adapters.

 

For $375 you will get exactly nothing!! This is CP Racing we’re talking about!! Do a search on this board or better yet go to the Good Guy / Bad Guy section. You’ll pay for something and never get it and you’ll spend the next 2 – 6 months trying to get a refund of your part. Your best bet is to look elsewhere or have your local machine shop fab the adaptors for you.

 

Boius had up pics of what you get from them.

Just get the front parts at the same time you get the rear and swap both ends.

 

Well, respeed has listed a big brake kit in the works that is suppose to be released soon, i'm waiting to see what's in that kit...

 

For the fronts, here's a shopping list from the scrap yard or parts store:

2x Front brake rotors
2x Inner Front wheel bearings
2x Outer Front wheel bearings
2x Center grease cap
2x Bearing Grease seal
2x cotter pins
8x Lug nuts (SE is studded)
Left LOADED caliper (Should include bracket, sliders, all hardware, and pads in one box)
Right LOADED caliper (Same as above.)
2x 114.3 mm x 4 bolt wheels

Expendables:
Lots of Grease
Beer

Tools:
Wrenches, etc.
Bearing grease packer

Install as if doing a standard brake job. Should work without needing the struts and ****.

 

hey whats up guys, the kit comes with adapter for caliper and sleev for t2 hub and all hardware,all you need is t2 hub ,rotor and caliper.I have it on my car and i'm also running dot 5 fluid and race pads (hawks pads).I makes a world of differance .

 

That's my plan.

Nah, I can live with the stock wheels until I get the swap done. I found a GSL-SE rear end for $190 at a local junkyard, so I just need to know what I need for the fronts. Anyone?

 

You're the man! Now, I don't need -SE lower control arms, do I?

 

As far as I can tell, the SE front is the same spindle and strut assembly. This means that SE stuff will bolt onto the non-SE cars.
I cannot confirm this, but I have been told SE front rotors will go onto a non-SE car, without changing anything else. I don't have a lot of faith in the person from whom I heard this, though.

 

wat cpracing practaclly did was wat someone else did. http://www.mazspeed.com/4pistonbrakeconversion.htm

cpracing just massed produced it. after reading this article ive decided to go to my boss (runs a machining company) to help measure and produce something similar. someone else on the forum recently went to a machine shop and customized brackets for 4piston too.

 

from what ive heard if you have an 83 and older you need to get the entire strut,if you have an 84-85 you can just swap the brake parts. get a loaded caliper that comes with the braket,pads,etc.(just like pele said)

 

We do have a kit that should be out by the end of the month. It will include the caliper bracket and the press on spindle spacer.

The customer would supply the hubs, rotors, bearings, grease seals and calipers from either a 4 lug or 5 lug second generation donor.

We are finalizing the price and kit contents at the moment. We are thinking about a group buy here on rx7club. The price will fall somewhere around half of what it would cost to purchase a kit or have it made.

-billy

 

The lower control arms are the same. I don't do any racing but my -SE brakes on my V8/GS are doing good. I might upgrade to hawk pads and get new disc though.