Second Gen Ignition system into a first gen....
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From: Da Barrio!!!(Irving, Texas)
Second Gen Ignition system into a first gen....
Is that easy??? Would it be a good upgrade???
I wont ask if it is possible.. cause anything is possible
But I was thinking that if they just have ignitiors built into the coils.... then why cant we just grab their whole system.... Take the crank angle sensor.... both coil packs.... and wire in and go...
Or does it run from the ECU???
I think this cause they are direct fire correct??? and that would be easier than wiring in 3 ignitors and coils.... correct???
THANX.. LATERZ, Andrew
I wont ask if it is possible.. cause anything is possible
But I was thinking that if they just have ignitiors built into the coils.... then why cant we just grab their whole system.... Take the crank angle sensor.... both coil packs.... and wire in and go...
Or does it run from the ECU???
I think this cause they are direct fire correct??? and that would be easier than wiring in 3 ignitors and coils.... correct???
THANX.. LATERZ, Andrew
I assume you're looking at the '86 you had in your possession...what is the guy supposed to do when he gets the money to finish his car?
Go the jeff20B DLIDFIS for now..it's alot easier than the path you're contemplating now, amigo...
Go the jeff20B DLIDFIS for now..it's alot easier than the path you're contemplating now, amigo...
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From: Da Barrio!!!(Irving, Texas)
Originally posted by mar3
I assume you're looking at the '86 you had in your possession...what is the guy supposed to do when he gets the money to finish his car? Go the jeff20B DLIDFIS for now..it's alot easier than the path you're contemplating now, amigo...
I assume you're looking at the '86 you had in your possession...what is the guy supposed to do when he gets the money to finish his car?
Go the jeff20B DLIDFIS for now..it's alot easier than the path you're contemplating now, amigo...
When he gets money.. he will go get a junkyard motor... or give me money too... or to rebuild this one up here.. then I get to finish his car... otherwise... its his dealings.....he is not as trustworthy as I thought he would be.... he talks about what he would like to happen.. not what he is going to try and make happen...
Anyways... I still am going the DLIDFIS way... just I figured I might try the second gen ignition system.. be the ginuea pig..... since I got the brand new plugs from this 13b to go into my car already
THANX LATERZ, Andrew
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Originally posted by HAILERS
Can you tell if the timing is advancing. As in putting a timing lite on it and reving just over 1000 rpm. Does it advance when you do that?????? Story time..... I have a 82rx7. One day just for the fun of it , and because I had an extra ECU, coil assy and time to goof off, decided to put the N326 on the 82. I strung the wires, put a cas in the car, installed the second gen lead and trail coil assy, and sure enough the car started and idled just fine. Whoopie. Well I drove it and it started to bark like a dog. Sluggish. I put a timing lite on it and saw no advance over 1000rpm. Stewed a while, then patched into the 82's tps. After that the timing would advance. Ran much better. Was on the verge of installing the pressure sensor out of the second gen, when I got distracted by buying a 87 turboii salvage vehicle. Never got around to doing the boost/pressure sensor. I think most folk use a 1st gen distributor when going carb route. Have fun. EDIT: Before someone jumps me from behind, I know that the timing curve for a 82 is different than what should be for a second gen. This was just a learning experience, nothing else.
Can you tell if the timing is advancing. As in putting a timing lite on it and reving just over 1000 rpm. Does it advance when you do that?????? Story time..... I have a 82rx7. One day just for the fun of it , and because I had an extra ECU, coil assy and time to goof off, decided to put the N326 on the 82. I strung the wires, put a cas in the car, installed the second gen lead and trail coil assy, and sure enough the car started and idled just fine. Whoopie. Well I drove it and it started to bark like a dog. Sluggish. I put a timing lite on it and saw no advance over 1000rpm. Stewed a while, then patched into the 82's tps. After that the timing would advance. Ran much better. Was on the verge of installing the pressure sensor out of the second gen, when I got distracted by buying a 87 turboii salvage vehicle. Never got around to doing the boost/pressure sensor. I think most folk use a 1st gen distributor when going carb route. Have fun. EDIT: Before someone jumps me from behind, I know that the timing curve for a 82 is different than what should be for a second gen. This was just a learning experience, nothing else.
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I run a second gen lead coil on my 83, the pickup in a 1st gen dizzy won't fire the 2nd gen ignitor for some reason, so you can just use the 1st gen ignitor to fire the 2nd gen coil. Or you could install the ecu and everything like HAILERS did.
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Originally posted by nimrodTT
I run a second gen lead coil on my 83, the pickup in a 1st gen dizzy won't fire the 2nd gen ignitor for some reason, so you can just use the 1st gen ignitor to fire the 2nd gen coil. Or you could install the ecu and everything like HAILERS did.
I run a second gen lead coil on my 83, the pickup in a 1st gen dizzy won't fire the 2nd gen ignitor for some reason, so you can just use the 1st gen ignitor to fire the 2nd gen coil. Or you could install the ecu and everything like HAILERS did.
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From: Trying to convince some clown not to put a Holley 600 on his 12a.
...Still looking to eliminate that distributer cap! I have just those nasty three wires hanging out of her, and I wish Jeff would start making the reluctors we need!
LOL! I know of at least one engine that has direct fire Leading and Trailing on an '81-'85 dizzy. It's a 1 rotor engine over at Atkins' shop. That dizzy has the reluctor you need!
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