djmickyg

tonight i leave my house to go driving and i could hear a funny noise coming from the rear so i was just about to pull over to check it but i thought yeah in a min....

the next second the rear end drops and one of my rear tires flies infront of the car! i slammed the brakes on with the drum brake now touching the road and sparking up.

the car finally stoped about a metre away from a tree! and half the drum has been grinded away and also my rims is buckled

i finaly jacked the car back up and had to run back home to get some new studs for the wheel cus i got no idea where the 4 in there went..

the only thing i saw damaged was the drum but i didnt really look at it i got it towed home, put the garage and i was too depressed to check it out..

also when i got the wheel back on (i couldnt put the front part of the drum back on cus the base was bent) i had no brake pressure so im FU*KEN hoping i didnt bust any hydrolic lines

RotorMotorDriver

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AHHH!!! Thats bad man . How did that happen? any ideas? Loose lugnuts maybe? Did you do any recent work on the wheels or tires? Didnt you just put springs on your car? Maybe you didnt get them tight enough? I hope everything is allright. BTW, next time dont let your own wheel outrun you either .

It kinda reminds me one time of when I was coming home from school and there was an F-250 on the side of the road with the wheel bolted to the axle or whatever, with the axle coming out of the housing about 2 feet. It was really goofy looking to see the rear left tire sticking out that far and it still holding the truck up, lol. Go go gadget telescoping axles .

~T.J.

genrex

Somehow your lug-nuts were loose, and your wheel fell off.

That happened to me a few years ago when I forgot to tighten the lug-nuts, and my left rear wheel fell off when I was about stopped. No damage was done, but it was embarrassing as hell.

djmickyg

um yeah i did do some work on it

i did do the springs a few days back and that all went according to plan, the car sits level now.

2day i was doing the front wheel berrings.. and i had the back one off cus i was tring to fit on these stupid rims i got lying around..

i did them up with air impact wrench so they should have been tight ?? i also did change all the wheel studs today..

i'll blame the new studs. cant blame myself

RotorMotorDriver

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Oh yeah, I was gonna ask about those rims too. Did they end up fitting?

~T.J.

djmickyg

these rims have been giving me grey hairs.

first they didnt fit over the wheel hub then a friend realized they had metal rings glued into so it made the hole smaler and they fitted snug around the honda hub, so we knocked em out and they fit

BUT

the stud patern isnt the 110mm! i measued it about a million times cus i was in disbeliefe. but it misses the hole by half a hole..!

so things arent looking bright for me.

SoRRoW

Im not sure about your guys rims oever there in AU,

BUT in the US most 4 lug universals are 4x4.5/4x100

Most 4 lug Hondas are 4x100
BUT if you had the GSLSE or series 3?
You guys have they would fit on the 4x4.5 pattern

Manntis

There's your problem. Lug nuts are supposed to be hand tightened, then properly torqued to spec in a cross-pattern. an impact tool will overtighten one nut at a time, leaving the rest of the rim free and can cause warping of the rim in the same way improperly torquing down a cylinder head in a boinger warps the head.

around here if a tire shop is caught using air tools to affix a wheel they could lose their license.

onepointone

****, air tools are the best thing in the world. i can get my tire off in soo much less time than it takes with a hand tool. not just that, tight spaces.. ect. i think everyone would agree. i usually just tighten them all down in a "X" pattern, then get a torque bar to get them to spec. i can understand over tightening and warping, but just dont sit there and let it impact them down. just when it stops, let off the button.

SoRRoW

You can either use a torque stick ot torque wrench,A tourque stick is a stick made foryoru car lug size and foot lbs tourqe we use this in dealerships and tire shops around here,

ALSO there is a incorrect way to use to torque wrench.After you set youer foot lbs hand tighten all your lugs nuts then go in a slow moving motion the tighten it with the wrench,untill it clicks,Dont yank or push on the wrench hard.

Wankelguy

I don't like to use air impact tools for lug nuts because they frequently damage the lug nuts. Much better to use a hand tool like a torque wrench. -WG

Adsy01

so they are 114.3mm then????
if so they will fit a S3

if you (or your bro) wanna sell them drop me a PM on here or ausrotay.com

BTW were did the pic of them go????? can you repost it??

gamble302

i used to work at discount tire and ive seen a few wheel offs. one time i saw a guy lower the lift on a 330 that didnt have a wheel even on. that was no good.
impacts are great if you know how to use em, but a lot of the new guys stripped threads or broke studs with em. you can use em to tighten, but remember to get the lug on by hand a few threads. and also remember to retorque after you drive around awhile.
gamble

Project84

Service manuals are starting to print that. The haynes for the 1st and 2nd gens don't mention it, but I think the one for my Explorer does.

djmickyg

i know this. i never do it from the start with the wrench, i alway hand tighten atleast 2 to get the wheel sitting flat then go around in the lowest torque setting then fianly with the midle setting.
but who knows what i did with this wheel ??

MIKE-P-28

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Are you sure? We use air tools to put wheels on, they do about 387 a shift like that Of course i work for Toyota

djmickyg

Well I finally had the guts to go see how much damage had been done..

My main scare was I snapped the brake lines because I had no pressure, but there all in tack. I lost pressure because the brake drum also flew off and the ends of the hydraulic pusher fell off and was leaking.

The only damage that was done was to the bottom of the backing plate, but luckily it didn’t get grinded all the way up, just took off the edges.




I’m going to re use the back plate because it isn’t warped and the drum still fits in it.

Now I just got to get my rims unbuckled and I’m back on the road



I figured out why the nuts could have got lose (I’m not disregarding the fact I may have not tightened them) but the new studs I used have a different angled bit where there all hold the rim on and as u can see in the picture below only the top of the angled bit is brown (where the yellow square is around) so that’s the only bit that was touching and holding the rim on.

Manntis

If by working for toyota you mean you work in an assembly plant, the air tools will be preset for the torque (at least the Honda plant in Ontario does it that way)

However tire shops, etc often just try to buzz them on 'tight' to get it out the door and the next customer's car in, which can strip threads, crack studs (which then break a few days or hours later) etc.

Seventhsin

Oh, shiit, Thats Exactly what my left rear drum looks like after my wheel decided to race me and won. A friend and I were working on my car and im gona say he put the wheel on and never tightened it up...

Driving along...bump, bump, BANG!, the wheel came off and under the car while still upright, bent up the lower rear quarter behind the wheel and put a lovely 'wheel-shaped' dent in the gas tank. It went round the back of the car and whacked my drivers door and sped off ahead of me. At that point the rear crashed to the ground and I came to a grinding halt. My wheel went down a hill and across the main road in rush hour traffic, It didn't hit a thing. Went OVER the first car and just through a gap in the other lane. I now have studs and nuts holding my wheels on now.

djmickyg

thank god im not the only then, makes me feel laot better. the only body damage i got was it scraped a bit of the paint from botom of the wheel arch.

how did u put bolts on ur back wheels?? a bolt thru the back of the axle and then a nut on the end?

Adsy01

you can get stud kits that screw in...

hey whats the colour of your car called?? i was bored and starte playing with car colours and came up with one a little like your cars colour

djmickyg

the colour is called royal blue, i got the paint from Paintmobile (i think its called) in high st, preston.
mines just a single pac enamel.

and it looks very nice on urs, what program u use to change it?

Adsy01

it was in photoshop just playing around tyring to get the hang of it

RX7ITS95

A friend that usually crews for me brought one of his buddies to the track. The buddy saw everyone torquing wheels and he decided to play with my impact wrench by loosening and thightening the rear driver wheel. He did not know that I have the wrench set at a lower pressure so I can do the final torque with a real torque wrench.
Everything was cool during warm ups and the start but when I was going into Big Bend ( a turn taken about 85mph and wonderful runoff off about 10 feet into a nice and hard metal wall) the wheel decided that it wanted nothing else to do with the car so it jumped off. I heard nothing and felt nothing until the steering wheel pulled hard left towards the wall and the wheel past me at speed that I would like to sometime reach. I didn't miss the wall, it scratched my mirror.
I did not find out what caused until the next race weekend when a fellow racer told me he saw the guy playing with my impact wrench.
My lesson, trust nobody triple check everything specially when somebody else does it for you.

RotorMotorDriver

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Holy ****, I wish I could use photoshop like that...Anyone wanna give me a tip on how to change the color of my car? Damn, thats good .

~T.J.