Safe to drive w/o comression?
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Safe to drive w/o comression?
Here is my dilemma.
I have been spending the last year building my dream car. Its pretty close to finished, and now is the time for the big rotor head meet (The Apple Blossom Festival).
Well, **** me my front rotor decided to lose compression.
I did an MMO treatment, let it sit for 2 days. It helped a small ammount. I did an ATF treatment, let it sit overnight, it helped a bit more. It is definately better than at first, but still not right.
It drives, its not fast (never was, i think its alwasy had low compression), and i dont know whether i would trust it on the 4-5 hour drive to the car show.
Well, i've put some MMO in the gas tank, and i think if i just drive it w/ the MMO in there it should eventually self heal, that or die altogether.
What do you guys think, drive it, or leave it home?
~Geoff
I have been spending the last year building my dream car. Its pretty close to finished, and now is the time for the big rotor head meet (The Apple Blossom Festival).
Well, **** me my front rotor decided to lose compression.
I did an MMO treatment, let it sit for 2 days. It helped a small ammount. I did an ATF treatment, let it sit overnight, it helped a bit more. It is definately better than at first, but still not right.
It drives, its not fast (never was, i think its alwasy had low compression), and i dont know whether i would trust it on the 4-5 hour drive to the car show.
Well, i've put some MMO in the gas tank, and i think if i just drive it w/ the MMO in there it should eventually self heal, that or die altogether.
What do you guys think, drive it, or leave it home?
~Geoff
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if it were my car.... drive it..... the worst thing is you will be running on one rotor.... and the 6 hour drive turns into a 12 hour..... plan ahead my friend......
peace out
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Geoff, your car is much too nice to take the risk, and have it break down and sit by the side of the road, and then get towed by a moron to some small-town rip-off repair shop that doesn't know **** about rotaries. Not only that, but your car would likely have to sit overnight outside their shop in bohunk-ville, and that's a very scary thought. That's 4 good reasons not to drive your car to the ABF this year.
But you've still got time.. give it another generous dose of MMO through the spark-plug holes and bump the starter a few times, and let it sit for a few hours. Then start it up, and after the white smoke clears take it for a good one-hour drive. Go through the entire power band, taking it to redline several times, under load.. "put the pedal to the metal" as they say.. drive it hard, then cruise for a while, and then do it again. That may do the trick. Here's hoping, and good luck!
But you've still got time.. give it another generous dose of MMO through the spark-plug holes and bump the starter a few times, and let it sit for a few hours. Then start it up, and after the white smoke clears take it for a good one-hour drive. Go through the entire power band, taking it to redline several times, under load.. "put the pedal to the metal" as they say.. drive it hard, then cruise for a while, and then do it again. That may do the trick. Here's hoping, and good luck!
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Genrex, i did it twice.
I let the MMO sit for 2 days, then i did it again with ATF and let it sit for 1 day.
Its getting better and better it seems the more i drive it.
I'm going to do the MMO-through-the-gas treatment, and that should hopefully clean it out by the time i get to the ABF.
I'm driving up w/ some buddies, so if it dies i will have emergency aid. It shouldnt die, its been running on low compression since i got it (i'm pretty sure. Its always been slow as hell, the previous owners knew nothing about cars).
~Geoff
I let the MMO sit for 2 days, then i did it again with ATF and let it sit for 1 day.
Its getting better and better it seems the more i drive it.
I'm going to do the MMO-through-the-gas treatment, and that should hopefully clean it out by the time i get to the ABF.
I'm driving up w/ some buddies, so if it dies i will have emergency aid. It shouldnt die, its been running on low compression since i got it (i'm pretty sure. Its always been slow as hell, the previous owners knew nothing about cars).
~Geoff
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Well Geof, the voice of reason does say to leave it home and ride up with your buddies. There's always next year. But living with the "voice of reason" sux and is bor-ring
So, I'd say make contingency plans and then go for it. It'll an adventure, for sure. A story you can tell, no matter what happens.
So, I'd say make contingency plans and then go for it. It'll an adventure, for sure. A story you can tell, no matter what happens.
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The only thing that could fix it is a new engine or a rebuild.
I might as well drive it, what can it do? IF anything it should free up the apex seal from the MMO in the gas... after all you are supposed to drive it after the treatment for a while...
I am going to be w/ other people the whole time. Plus there will be TONS of rotary gurus at the event to help me out. So i think i should be safe. We shall see though.
I've got my handy cell phone, i've got my buddies, and i've got my reckless spirit which demands me to take the car or not go at all (this is the reason why i've been workign on my car for the last 6 months).
Wish me luck, in my bad judgement i am driving to the festival. Hopefully this will fix my car. If not, it will make it that much closer to death.
~Geoff
I might as well drive it, what can it do? IF anything it should free up the apex seal from the MMO in the gas... after all you are supposed to drive it after the treatment for a while...
I am going to be w/ other people the whole time. Plus there will be TONS of rotary gurus at the event to help me out. So i think i should be safe. We shall see though.
I've got my handy cell phone, i've got my buddies, and i've got my reckless spirit which demands me to take the car or not go at all (this is the reason why i've been workign on my car for the last 6 months).
Wish me luck, in my bad judgement i am driving to the festival. Hopefully this will fix my car. If not, it will make it that much closer to death.
~Geoff
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Good luck then? Hmmmm, of course, now you have a good reason/excuse to take that motor apart and do some good ol porting no? Well, I suppose you ought to take it easy on the way there and back...
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Originally posted by ioTus
I might as well drive it, what can it do? IF anything it should free up the apex seal from the MMO in the gas... after all you are supposed to drive it after the treatment for a while...
I might as well drive it, what can it do? IF anything it should free up the apex seal from the MMO in the gas... after all you are supposed to drive it after the treatment for a while...
Have you done a compression test, It could be something even more simple than a bad seal.
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I'm not rebuilding this engine.
It would cost the same to put a TII in, so thats what i'm going to do.
Plus, i fucked up the lower intake manifold, and broke a bolt off of the 6th port actuator.
BTW, nobody around here has a compression tester, and no shops will let me use theirs. They wont touch the rotary.
~Geoff
It would cost the same to put a TII in, so thats what i'm going to do.
Plus, i fucked up the lower intake manifold, and broke a bolt off of the 6th port actuator.
BTW, nobody around here has a compression tester, and no shops will let me use theirs. They wont touch the rotary.
~Geoff
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Well we now know it isnt the lost compression causing this. It sounds like it isnt firing, every rotation, but it is. The compression is acceptable (although very low). and is not what is causing this problem
It now seems more like vacumn or electric or fuel related.
~Geoff
It now seems more like vacumn or electric or fuel related.
~Geoff
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change the fuel filter... but that cracked apex seal scares me... I was thinking the apex seals are carbon stucked... but a crack apex seal is real scary... the nitride coating is definitely going to be scraped in if the seals break... why not tap the broken bolt..... tap it... or seal it real nice if ULTRA BLUE SILICONE...
#15
Now I know I posted on a similar thread a few days ago.
The bottom line is, you don't want to drive with a crippled motor. It's hard to park, almost impossible to merge on a divided freeway, has a blaupunkt and gets really shitty gas mileage (like 6000 SUX bad, for you RoboCop fans). I mean really, is it worth the stress?
The bottom line is, you don't want to drive with a crippled motor. It's hard to park, almost impossible to merge on a divided freeway, has a blaupunkt and gets really shitty gas mileage (like 6000 SUX bad, for you RoboCop fans). I mean really, is it worth the stress?
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