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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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RX-7 rally video

Have you guys seen this.

rally vid

and this one
rally vid 2

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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Yep, I think two of the origianl Group B RX-7's are still competing here in Norway.

Also check out this one used in rallycross and hillclimbing. Custom widebody and 13B PP.

http://www.wrc.no/filer/konsmo_Stein.wmv

EDIT: Another from the rallycross track:
http://www.wrc.no/filer/stein_3omg_rug.wmv

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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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I like the way it sounds. cool car. that guy shifts fast
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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Excellent! that guy drives well. Bizzare course.
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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That is exactly what I wanted to see. Those guys know how to throw the rear end around. That would be so cool to have a 7 that could handel that type of driving. I think I would get in alot of trouble with it.
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Almost any 7 owner would get into a lot of trouble with that.

The car in the second vid sounds awsome. It has a real lumpy idle though. Would that be a P-Port? Nice vids, and that guy really shifts fast. Faster than even the LeMans racers do.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 03:48 AM
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It's the same guy and same car in both of the vids. He's running a 13B PP, Volvo M45 gearbox with dog rings (no need to clutch when shifting) and a Volvo 1031 rearend.

(Very easy to get racing parts for the Volvo's here in Scandinavia)

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:05 AM
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dog rings?
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:59 AM
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Dont ask me how it works dog shifted transmissions are widely used in racing..
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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Dog rings = no synchros
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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both vids are pretty cool. dog ringed trans huh? good stuff. he is a good driver, i'll give him that. rallies are tough and not for tha faint heart.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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i want to rally haha that inspires me. lol but that wont happen im lucky to be half as good a driver as them... parking lots and snowy roads are one thing... but high speed dirt is another

i wouldnt mind a dog tranny, 6 speed tho i want a 6 speed for some reason really bad

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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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I want a dog box tranny, those things are badass. Sport Compact car had a really good tech article on how they work about a year ago, they're cool.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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so what is with the hi pitch whinning noise? I heard the brap brap brap of the pport but don't recognize the hi pitched noise.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Wow, I love that. I have a cool vid that I need to get off a video of a rally 3-door GLC with a 12a turbo, that car can really move.

Love the driving in those vids - sweet.
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so what is with the hi pitch whinning noise? I heard the brap brap brap of the pport but don't recognize the hi pitched noise.
the dog box would be my guess
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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yeah,most race cars without synchro gearboxes make that whining noise.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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I've heard the whining before too on WRC cars. I think that car would fair pretty well in WRC. Gotta love the sound of a P-Port though.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by Second2none
i want to rally haha that inspires me. lol but that wont happen im lucky to be half as good a driver as them... parking lots and snowy roads are one thing... but high speed dirt is another

i wouldnt mind a dog tranny, 6 speed tho i want a 6 speed for some reason really bad

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Get ahold of a schedule for your local SCCA chapter. They hold TSD rallies. These are not full bore rallying like the WRC, but they are still a rally and still the best kind of amatuer racing.

In a TSD rally you and your navigator are given a set of course notes. These give you a set speed (at or below the speed limit), and a distance to cover to the next instruction (usually an intersection/turn/sign). Your goal is to cover that distance at exactly that speed. You are scored on time taken at unannounced checkpoints placed throughout the course. If you get there early, you get points, if you get there late, you get points. Its about precision not speed.

It sounds easy and boring, but it isn't. There is also a lot more to it than what I have here. Rally racing is fun, and generally inexpensive. We usually race for about $60 plus a tank of gas and some food.

I think I'm going to rally race my RX-7 now. I've haven't rallied since I lost my beater Buick.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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The whining is due to straight cut gears. Nothing to do with being a dogbox.

Here's a *great* rally video - Andrew Havas driving his (famous?) orange RX-7. Roof cam!

http://www.randyzimmer.com/video/rny04/ahss3.mov (right click and save! Requires Quicktime)

Many more rally videos (almost entirely Subaru 2.5RS) at www.randyzimmer.com
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Wooo ! ... that's nice ! .. I love the sound of the turbo though ! really screems .. I want money ... so that I can hear a scream too !! ://
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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I want a dog box tranny, those things are badass. Sport Compact car had a really good tech article on how they work about a year ago, they're cool.
I think I have a link to a company somewhere in my bookmarks that sells a dogbox tranny for $7k for the FB. Don't remember if it was for the 12a or the 13b but doesn't the tranny fit either one?
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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hmm $7k, guess that'll have to be on my "when I'm rich I'll buy this" list. and I think the trans will work with either yes.
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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I have half of a dogbox in my garage... the other half will be when I get enough round tuits to finish modifying the gears/sliders, and decide if I want 1st and 5th synchronized or just 5th or none at all (currently it's just 3rd and 4th).

THEN I'd need money, to buy new bearings, and some Devcon to strengthen the front trans housing so maybe 3rd gear won't die so quickly. So i am in no rush.

Really wish I had a Miata gearset to play with instead of an FB gearset... the Miata gears are much closer and thus, besides the performance benefits, are more conducive to non-synchro shifting.

Clutches are still a good idea for a dogbox, but you never have to worry about the synchros blocking/balking a shift.
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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bad *** movies. "raw rotary action"
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