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Old May 19, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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Re: Re: Speaker Boxes 101

Originally posted by MIKE-P-28


I could tell a lot more, but i dont feel like typing an entire book, and I bet im kinda unable to dump 12 years of experience in a few minutes
More on enclosure basics... Like whats Bandpass box and... I know theres several others.. and whats best for what kind of music, and etc..
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Old May 19, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Speaker Boxes 101

Originally posted by Pele


More on enclosure basics... Like whats Bandpass box and... I know theres several others.. and whats best for what kind of music, and etc..
That all depends on many variables.

The way I see it is:

Sealed box great results with minimal hassle

Ported Box very efficeint, lower power handleing below the tuned freq. a little tougher to build (works pretty good for lots of kind of music)

band pass : wheter it being single reflex (1 port) or dual reflex (2 ports) efficent, relative low roll off, limited freq range, differcult to design and tune (Ive done a lot of these), usually a very big box

isobaric : wheter being dual reflex or single, same as the bandpass in terms of construction, very differecult. Usuage of 2 woofers get you a box 1/2 the size at the expense of another woofer, play extremely low (when coupling 2 woofers together, you 1/2 the vAS and the FS becomes the effective measurement) I once did a box for a 99 mustang with 8 12's in the trunk. He actually wanted 4, but you know that aint possible to fit, so I did 2 acoustic coupled iso-groups with 4 woofers each side with a common chamber in the middle. Long story, but it hit VERY VERY well.
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Old May 31, 2002 | 12:57 AM
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Mike: Haha dump 12 years of experience in minutes. I could talk for days about theory too, but typing it is a entirely different matter.

I think many people get caught up in the theory or the ideas that are suggest from theory. Like most people will say for sound quality go with a sealed box. Well that is crap because you can have good sound quality in a ported box. In the end it is the sub, working with the box, and finally your vehical that makes it sound good or not good. Thiele-Small parameters are a good starting point, but you will still need to build a couple of test boxes to get the "best" setup for a given sub.

My thoughts are this stay with sealed or ported. Don't think tuning a ported box is really that hard because it is not. Stay away from band pass because you are just going to get a single note bass wonder unless you know what you are doing. (In some sense the car makes all subs a band pass box!!!) Isobaric setups are really cool but most don't want to play that game.

My personal prefernce is a ported box with very low tuning. I used to run a pair of 10W6s in my integra with a 28 Hz tuned port with 1.5 ft^3 per sub. The book called for 30 Hz and 1.0 ft^3 of air space per sub. It pulled low and clean and I cut of the upper end at 65 Hz with a 12 db x-over. I personally don't like 80/100 Hz and up coming from my sub in large power levels! However many many hard rock guys like bass in that frequency because bass drums (w/ harmonics) show up there. That is my last thought for you ... consider what kind of music you like to help guide your selection.
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Old May 31, 2002 | 04:30 AM
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anyone had any experiences with aperodic chambers with the rear of the car? (is anyone going to be making those fibregalss enclosures for the 10's for a stealth install?

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Old May 31, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by 4ohfour
anyone had any experiences with aperodic chambers with the rear of the car? (is anyone going to be making those fibregalss enclosures for the 10's for a stealth install?

cheers'
I plan to start measuring this weekend to see what shape the box has to take, for the "stealth install" Not sure about 10's though, but we'll see. Two 8's **** hit hard enough for our little cars, you would think.

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