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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Question rear end question......again

i went to the yard today and the guy told me he could order me a r4ear end for $250!!! he asked me though if i had a 12a or 13b which i said 12a does that mean i am getting a gsl rear becaseu he said it had disc brakes and lsd.......which also he said is a 9" and the 13b is a 10" is this true and what is the ups and down of getting the 13b rear and 12a rear i have an 85 gs now and this is a 85 rear......
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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9" or 10" what?? All the first gen rears use a 7" ring and pinion

But eh difference between the GSL and the GSL-SE rear is the GSL-SE rear uses larger vented rear disc brakes, and has a bolt pattern of 4x114.3mm instead of the 4x110mm used on the gsl

The gsl-se also has a ring and pinion ratio of 4.08:1 whereas the the gsl has a 3.909

Higher the ratio, the faster you accelerate and the more torque to the wheels, but lower top speed
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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hmm...i knew about the bolt pattern and gears but didnt know what it meant... if im doing autox and maybe drift the se rear would be better i gusse??......will it install the same? as the gsl?? and what all is needed for the install while im doing it i plan to put new rotors and pads and ss lines and new diff fluid shocks and springs anything else i should know about?????tools......ect..
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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the rear end is basically the same, installs the same. The only differences are the ones I listed above
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Old May 14, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Okay, there's actually a lot more to consider here. If you go with the -SE rear end, you'll need parking brake cable ends from an SE as well. Pre 83.5 cars also have a different driveshaft flange bolt pattern and smaller axle splines as well. If your car is an S3 (83.5 - 85) then your only consideration is the parking brake cables. FWIW, the GSL-SE diff also has one less LSD clutch (3 instead of 4) to make room for the bigger pinion gear.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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The -SE's rearend is perched 20 mm lower, it's a part of the uni-body design. the rear brake lines have a different thread pitch and don't forget to get limited slip gear fluid
(oil) gotta have-it .
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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GSL SE 4.07.. not 8

When he said 9 or 10 maybe he ment rotor size?

I also have a 84 GS,with the drum brakes.I put on the GSL SE brake booster and the pressure was sooo dam nice..

Since you have an 85, 84/85 DONT need to change the brake booster so you can put a GSL SE rear end in.. also keep in mind of the lug pattern change 4x110 GSLSE= 4x114.3

Im going Ford 9in soon.. I wished there was more first gen gusy here in my area.. someone please move here.. lol
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Old May 14, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary7s
GSL SE 4.07.. not 8

When he said 9 or 10 maybe he ment rotor size?

I also have a 84 GS,with the drum brakes.I put on the GSL SE brake booster and the pressure was sooo dam nice..

Since you have an 85, 84/85 DONT need to change the brake booster so you can put a GSL SE rear end in.. also keep in mind of the lug pattern change 4x110 GSLSE= 4x114.3

Im going Ford 9in soon.. I wished there was more first gen gusy here in my area.. someone please move here.. lol
Taken from Felix Miata's site:

"4.083 49 12 GSL-SE beginning 84/12
4.077 53 13 GSL-SE thru 84/11"

You're both right, but rounding up I'd say hornbm is more right.
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Old May 14, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary7s
I also have a 84 GS,with the drum brakes.I put on the GSL SE brake booster and the pressure was sooo dam nice..
Ok I dont know how to edit,yeah im a newbie again.. I put on a GSL SE master cyclinder and increased brake pedal alot.
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